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#1 johnb

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 09:53 AM

For those of you who follow Tyler's peregrinations around the ethnic dives of the area (but then he points out that even CityZen can be thought of as ethnic), he has now put up the latest (19th) edition. Link is

http://www.gmu.edu/j.../19th Cowen.htm

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 10:24 AM

While there's much to argue about with some of his choices (and it seems many picks are out of date-- like he hasn't visited these places in quite a while), I love this bit about 1789 (which is exactly how I feel about the place):

"Georgetown standby, it has about the most boring looking menu you can imagine. That being said, quality is uniformly excellent across the board. In a nice old building, the room is charming in the sort of way that appeals to fireplace lovers. Wealthy parents of Georgetown spoiled brats eat here. I can’t complain about the quality, but I will only eat here if someone else is paying the bill. Many will love it, and I enjoy it when I go, but it is not my thing."

Edited by cjsadler, 20 October 2005 - 10:26 AM.

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 10:56 AM

While there's much to argue about with some of his choices (and it seems many picks are out of date-- like he hasn't visited these places in quite a while), I love this bit about 1789 (which is exactly how I feel about the place):

"Georgetown standby, it has about the most boring looking menu you can imagine.  That being said, quality is uniformly excellent across the board.  In a nice old building, the room is charming in the sort of way that appeals to fireplace lovers.  Wealthy parents of Georgetown spoiled brats eat here. I can’t complain about the quality, but I will only eat here if someone else is paying the bill.  Many will love it, and I enjoy it when I go, but it is not my thing."

Now that Riz is leaving 1789, it will be interesting to see what happens there, not to mention wherever her new place turns out to be.

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 11:19 AM

Would it be too much trouble for him to use boldface, italics, underlining, or blinking neon red arrows to separate the names of the restaurants from the narrative? Sheesh. My eyes and brain hurt in equal amounts after plowing through a portion of that list.

It is interesting, though. I'll be dining at one of the Afghan places he mentioned (Faryab) this weekend, and I don't think I've ever had Afghan food...
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Posted 22 October 2005 - 11:38 AM

"Chipotle, numerous area locations.

OK, let’s get the bad news out of the way up front. This is a chain. Even worse, it is a chain owned by McDonald’s corporation, the fount of culinary evil. That being said, it is pretty good. Fresh and relatively authentic Mexican food, you tell them how to put together your meal. The salsa is genuinely spicy. The carnitas are the best meat. Not much choice, but you don’t need it. I’d rather eat here than almost any other Mexican place on this list."

AAAARGH. I love Tex-Mex on weekends for lunch. Last week had a very disappointing meal at Los Poblanos so I decided to see what Tyler Cowan recommended this week. I can get great Tex-Mex in Memphis, okay not as good as San Antonio but good enough. Why in DC would one of the better places be a chain owned by Ronald McD? Especially since our administration is so heavily dominated by Texans????

AAAARGH.

EDITED: Looking for suggestions by the way... places I have tried and crossed off the list: MexiCali Blues, Burrito Brothers, the place in the food court at Ballston (loved for a long time but got sick a couple of times), Chevy's (chain), Rio Grande (chain)...

Edited again because I am shocked at how far away the good places listed on Cowan's list are from where I live in Virginia. 30 to 40 minutes... AAARGG

Edited by NCPinDC, 22 October 2005 - 11:48 AM.


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Posted 24 October 2005 - 12:15 PM

Edited again because I am shocked at how far away the good places listed on Cowan's list are from where I live in Virginia.  30 to 40 minutes... AAARGG

Taqueria Poblano?
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Posted 24 October 2005 - 12:18 PM

EDITED:  Looking for suggestions by the way... places I have tried and crossed off the list:  MexiCali Blues, Burrito Brothers, the place in the food court at Ballston (loved for a long time but got sick a couple of times), Chevy's (chain), Rio Grande (chain)...

The Well-Dressed Burrito
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Posted 24 October 2005 - 12:50 PM

I was not that impressed with Taqueria Poblano. I thought the food was heavily laden with salt. The salsa for which they charge was mediocre at best, the chips not so good. Oh, and it does not equate to a bargain though it is considered a bargain restaurant in DC.

I do forget about the well dressed burrito. Wonder if they are open on Saturdays?

Has anyone been to Taco Baja on Route 50 near the Greatlands Target? Curious...

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 12:55 PM

I do forget about the well dressed burrito. Wonder if they are open on Saturdays?

No...they're open Monday-Friday 11:45 to 2:15 pm.
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Posted 24 October 2005 - 01:43 PM

I was not that impressed with Taqueria Poblano.  I thought the food was heavily laden with salt.  The salsa for which they charge was mediocre at best, the chips not so good.  Oh, and it does not equate to a bargain though it is considered a bargain restaurant in DC. 

I do forget about the well dressed burrito. Wonder if they are open on Saturdays?

Has anyone been to Taco Baja on Route 50 near the Greatlands Target?  Curious...

I think you're only going to find the Well Dressed Burrito average. Has anyone checked out any of the places in Bladensburg lately? That's my last hope for good Mexican in the area.
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Posted 24 October 2005 - 04:09 PM

I think you're only going to find the Well Dressed Burrito average.    Has anyone checked out any of the places in Bladensburg lately?  That's my last hope for good Mexican in the area.

The places in Bladensburg are fine in my experience. Relatively authentic, at least by DC standards.

Much better than Well-dressed Buritto is El Charrito Caminante. Outstanding burritos, tacos, pupusas, etc. Carry-out except with some counters around the wall in front. If you haven't been to this place you must go. Both the cabrito and the chorizo are great--have the cabrito on taco and the chorizo on the burrito. It's in Clarendon on Washington St. I think, in the last set of stores before the road gets wide and takes you down to 395. Cheap too.

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 04:13 PM

The places in Bladensburg are fine in my experience.  Relatively authentic, at least by DC standards.

Much better than Well-dressed Buritto is El Charrito Caminante.  Outstanding burritos, tacos, pupusas, etc.  Carry-out except with some counters around the wall in front.  If you haven't been to this place you must go.  Both the cabrito and the chorizo are great--have the cabrito on taco and the chorizo on the burrito.  It's in Clarendon on Washington St. I think, in the last set of stores before the road gets wide and takes you down to 395.  Cheap too.


I am so excited that you have tried El Charrito Caminante. I noticed it on Sunday and was going to try it this week. Gracias!!!

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 06:41 PM

I am so excited that you have tried El Charrito Caminante.  I noticed it on Sunday and was going to try it this week.  Gracias!!!

Also try the lengua.

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 11:15 AM

Has anyone been to Taco Baja on Route 50 near the Greatlands Target?  Curious...

I've eaten at Taco Baja many times. It's a rather peculiar place. It's a pretty mediocre Tex-Mex place with counter service, and a pretty good Salvadoran place with table service. The Salvadorans who eat there sit down at a table, and a waitress brings them menus, chats them up, takes their order, brings their food. The gringos who eat there walk up to the counter, order enchiladas or tacos or whatever, go sit at a table, and then retrieve their order from the counter when called. As a gringo, and a solo luncher, I've never quite had the nerve to walk in and sit down at a table and see what would happen. I have ordered a Salvadoran dish at the counter, however, and when I go sit down at a table, the waitress then brings my order to the table. It's very weird.

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 04:36 PM

New edition (20th).

Zengo makes the 'must try' list? (I did have a very good lunch there, but...)
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 04:40 PM

New edition (20th).  

Zengo makes the 'must try' list?  (I did have a very good lunch there, but...)

And his blurb on TemptAsian is stale.

eta: And didn't I see a report that Kenny's Barbque on Duke in Alexandria has closed?

Edited by Jacques Gastreaux, 22 February 2006 - 04:44 PM.

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 04:48 PM

I wonder how many people he typically dines with. Under Indique, the author suggests:

Everything is excellent, but get as many appetizers as possible, ten or twelve I would say. 

I'm not finding this Tyler person all that charming or interesting (or helpful, for that matter).

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 05:07 PM

I wonder how many people he typically dines with.  Under Indique, the author suggests:
I'm not finding this Tyler person all that charming or interesting (or helpful, for that matter).

Who cares about charming? I think it is pretty well known that the better Asian places are not in the city.

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 05:09 PM

Has anyone been to Taco Baja on Route 50 near the Greatlands Target? Curious...

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I cannot speak for Taco Baja, but Picante's, just down 50, west of 28 is not bad at all. Inexpensive, well prepared tex-mex is what they have. Ok tequila selection, but I prefer Pacifico anyway. If you go, the queso fundido cannot be missed. Melted queso blanco and peppers and tortillas rock the house.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 05:16 PM

Has anyone been to Taco Baja on Route 50 near the Greatlands Target?  Curious...

Once, some time ago. Like many such joints in the area, the menu skews heavily towards Salvadorean rather than Mexican cuisine and the food isn't bad, just unremarkable, from what I can recall.

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 10:18 PM

As far as stale goes, Prof. Cowen doesn't seem to update his listing with restaurants that have closed, but does add new places. At least that is my impression. He's got some good choices (I like his opinion on Ethiopian restos) but I don't think his guide is all that great for anything other than a guide to what kinds of food you can get where -- the numerous ethnic varieties available in the city and burbs.

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 09:55 AM

He's got a blog now. Worth keeping an eye on, as he sometimes ferrets out some very obscure places, such as Manila Cafe in Springfield (mdt, call your office!)
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Posted 21 April 2006 - 10:06 AM

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 10:07 AM

He's got a blog now.  Worth keeping an eye on, as he sometimes ferrets out some very obscure places, such as Manila Cafe in Springfield (mdt, call your office!)

I may have to check this place out. Of course I need to figure out how to use the condiments with the food. Why doesn't he go into this?

Looking at info about this place I found this, "Want to impress your friends at a dinner party? Serve (with one day advance notice) the lechon (whole roasted pig), plus some Filipino side dishes." Might be a good place for a DR.com outing.

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Posted 22 April 2006 - 07:59 PM

I may have to check this place out.  Of course I need to figure out how to use the condiments with the food.  Why doesn't he go into this?

Looking at info about this place I found this, "Want to impress your friends at a dinner party? Serve (with one day advance notice) the lechon (whole roasted pig), plus some Filipino side dishes."  Might be a good place for a DR.com outing.

I'd be in for that one.
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 08:39 PM

Looking at info about this place I found this, "Want to impress your friends at a dinner party? Serve (with one day advance notice) the lechon (whole roasted pig), plus some Filipino side dishes."  Might be a good place for a DR.com outing.

That's a great idea. Are you volunteering to organize one? :)

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Posted 03 September 2006 - 12:18 PM

I thought Cowen's piece on ethnic dining in today's Washington Post was a good read. Check it out if you haven't yet.
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Posted 03 September 2006 - 01:00 PM

I'm glad to see a piece from Tyler in the Post. His Ethnic Dining Guide has always been interesting and informative, and he deserves the press.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 11:43 AM

Tyler Cowen doing his day job, talking about Haiti's economy on Marketplace yesterday.

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 05:40 PM

Tyler Cowen doing his day job, talking about Haiti's economy on Marketplace yesterday.

He also has an op ed piece many Sundays in the NYT Business section. If one shows up tomorrow I'll edit this and link it.

EDIT: Yes, here it is!

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 05:02 AM

Tyler Cowen profile in today's Post.




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