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La Tagliatella, a Poland-Based Italian Chain Owned by AmRest - Both Clarendon and Germantown Branches are Closed


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La Tagliatella is supposed to open this Monday, April 1, in Clarendon in the 3 Bar and Grill location.  The menu is posted here on their website.  It has a wide selection of mix and match pastas and sauces as well as pizzas and other items.

I'll reserve judgment and give it a try first.  (The website also says wifi is available at Clarendon.)

According to its website:

La Tagliatella, is owned by AmRest Holding SE (AmRest, WSE); the largest operator of independent restaurants in Central and Eastern Europe with more than 700 restaurants. We have more than 135 La Tagliatella restaurants globally in Europe, Asia, India and the US.
        
There will also be a location where Extra Virgin in Shirlington was.

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Yes, reserving judgment until actually trying it is the right thing to do.

Then again, their focus is "central and eastern Europe" but this is an Italian concept, which I think is southern Europe. And, 700 restaurants is A LOT of restaurants. :huh:

Yes, reserving judgment until actually trying it is the right thing to do.

Yes, reserving judgment until actually trying it is the right thing to do.

Yes, reserving judgment until actually trying it is the right thing to do.

:D;):D;)

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Stopped in last night as a sort of last resort option after trolling Clarendon for a little while. The space feels like a slightly more upscale version of Maggiano's, but less cavernous. Last night at 8:30 the bar area was full, but maybe half the tables were occupied.

Wine list was fair but not extensive, I was surprised to see a Quintessa on the menu, and at $205 the markup wasn't out of line. The odd part was that no vintage was listed :unsure:

It' sounds strange, but with hundreds of combinations on the menu, I actually found the selection somewhat limited... Not being a huge fan of pasta as my main, other options were pizza, baked dishes, and a few proteins. The pasta selection seemed pretty heavily in favor of cream sauces - again this is personal preference, but not being a big cream sauce person, tomato or wine-based sauces were limited.

I ended up getting the Lasagna Verde ($15.50) - a sizeable portion of lasagna with spinach, golden raisins and pine nuts. Once I got past the slightly odd texture of the pine nuts in the mix, I really enjoyed this dish. On the flip side, my +1 ordered the Traditional Lasagna ($16), which was a disappointment. While I'm not a fan of salty foods as much as some, this was almost inedibly salty. It also came topped with a strangely orange tomato(?) sauce that reminded me of Chef Boyardee canned sauce.

4 mini scoops of Gelato for dessert (6$) to finish things off. All in all, it was $72 for 2 wines, 2 beers and one cocktail, 2 mains and 1 dessert. Not too bad, though we trended on the less expensive side of the menu.

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While I'm not a fan of salty foods as much as some, this was almost inedibly salty. It also came topped with a strangely orange tomato(?) sauce that reminded me of Chef Boyardee canned sauce.

Tomato sauce can turn orange when there is A LOT of fat in it. From your description, it sounds like they follow the maxim: "if we cram as much salt and fat as possible in everything, people will love it." Which is probably true.
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Wine list was fair but not extensive, I was surprised to see a Quintessa on the menu, and at $205 the markup wasn't out of line. The odd part was that no vintage was listed :unsure:

This screams "lazy and corporate." I'm not saying there's "no excuse" for this, but it's not unlike buying a car without knowing the year.

I can envision some scruffy (yet handsome) dude in Italy, wearing an expensive, but wrinkled and schleppy, suit, shirt unbuttoned, no tie, feet on his desk, smoking a Macedonia, phone in his ear because he's leaning back in his desk chair and typing, telling his underlings to slap together this wine list with "whatever the current vintage the distributor has - the Americans won't care."

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DonRocks, on 09 May 2013 - 12:42, said:

This screams "lazy and corporate." I'm not saying there's "no excuse" for this, but it's not unlike buying a car without knowing the year.

I can envision some scruffy (yet handsome) dude in Italy, wearing an expensive, but wrinkled and schleppy, suit, shirt unbuttoned, no tie, feet on his desk, smoking a Macedonia, phone in his ear because he's leaning back in his desk chair and typing, telling his underlings to slap together this wine list with "whatever the current vintage the distributor has - the Americans won't care."

I have a slightly different picture, and he is sitting in Poland.

Interestingly enough the website for the restaurant does not have an option to translate into Italian, I guess they are not a target audience for their "Authentic Italian" cuisine.

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So in the US they do Applebee's and La Tagliatella. Interesting. Looks like they have a deal with Yum! for eastern Europe...

(I haven't been to a non-airport Applebee's in ages. And in the airport, all I ordered was beer after beer after beer, given that I was stuck in LAX for 6+ hours.)

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In passing by there over the past few weeks it appears to be reasonably or pretty busy, though I haven't checked comments on that "other website" whatever it is called, welp, or blelp, or drelp, or whatever it is.

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Well, I'm getting a hint to why Buca de Beppo is still in business. (It's not because they've gotten any of my money in recent years.) Big plates of stuff which don't cost an arm and a leg. And, it's not like you are "dining" at MacDonald's. I kind of agree with Sietsema about Olive Garden. The last time I ate there (not my choice but, then again, there wasn't a whole lotta choice) I got the most expensive item on the menu (about $13) and it was really not objectionable. Perfectly cooked shrimp with perfectly cooked pasta. And, I was very, very hungry by the time we obtained a table, having had to wait for about 45 minutes. (This experience was in El Paso, TX, BTW.)

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After reading that, I am not sure what justified the half star he gave it - he has given zero in the past and the one I remember was for Taverna Cretekou and I do not recall that being nearly as bad as this review.

My take was that the half star came from the service, the "generous and strong" cocktails, the pasta being removed from hot water at the right time (the subsequent salt assault notwithstanding), and the rare item that was good (he cited the dish with mozzarella, anchovy, and crushed tomatoes). Even then, from reading the review he was being generous.

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I wonder if this review will have any impact whatsoever on the restaurant's revenues....

I am willing to bet that there will be no impact as I suspect that there is a very small intertwining of his readers and the people that La Tagliatella are targeting as customers. I believe that they are targeting people like Yelp user Danielle G. and those types of moronic reviews will have more impact on driving people to the restaurant than Sietsema's has on driving them away (fewer and smaller words versus thoughtful long form prose).

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Seitsema ethering a place? I better hurry to get there, I bet it's delicious.

Funny line though "Someone needs to put a stop to this threat to our nation." I would say the same about him and this city. But he's probably right about this one.

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Though i found the review amusing, i was wondering--is there anyone out there who's been there and can comment on whether or not it really is that bad? on one hand, i generally find TomS to be far too generous in his reviews of places and overly impressed with cleverness/novelty over taste (what he finds rave worthy i often think is "fine" or "average-to-good") so i'm thinking that if he didn't like it, it must be abysmal. on the other hand, most of his criticisms seemed to revolve around his dislike of the idea of some of their versions of traditional favorites. of course caesar salad shouldn't come with a choice of dressings, but are tomatoes that odd an addition? are croutons really that horrible in minestrone? (though of course it shouldn't be pureed). it seemed to me that his objections to the savory dishes was often to the concept, and he didn't seem to give them a chance.

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My wife went last week with some of her girl friends. While she has eaten at some of the cities best restaurants (and enjoys them), she always gives me crap for being a "snob" when I scoff at going to chain restaurants, etc. (she makes me out to be a greater snob than I am...as evidenced by my enjoyment of Lost Dog Cafe :ph34r: )

Her perspective was that it was ok (if heavy) and conducive to hanging out with her book club pals...but her comment to me was that she doubted I'd ever want to set foot in the place - not only due to the fact that I still miss Restaurant 3 (one of the quieter happy hour spots in Clarendon, with an excellent beer selection) and lament its loss - but that it was just too corporate and the food was "fake italian" and "ordinary".

I, unfortunately, think the place will thrive much as the Cheesecake Factory has a block away...

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Well, I'm getting a hint to why Buca de Beppo is still in business. (It's not because they've gotten any of my money in recent years.) Big plates of stuff which don't cost an arm and a leg. And, it's not like you are "dining" at MacDonald's. I kind of agree with Sietsema about Olive Garden. The last time I ate there (not my choice but, then again, there wasn't a whole lotta choice) I got the most expensive item on the menu (about $13) and it was really not objectionable. Perfectly cooked shrimp with perfectly cooked pasta. And, I was very, very hungry by the time we obtained a table, having had to wait for about 45 minutes. (This experience was in El Paso, TX, BTW.)

I was at a Buca de Beppo in Gaithersburg a few weeks ago and I got the sense that its popularity is due to huge partions of slighly edible food. I have also noticed that a lot of these chain restaurants overdo the seasonings, mainly salt, and apparently that may be what draws in the customers who don't carry large bags of potato chips around with them. I do live within hailing distance of this place and, although I will not go in, I will remember that it was once the home of Restaurant Three and a fairly decent Greek restaurant before that,

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The fairly decent Greek place was called "Aegean Taverna." The food was okay, but what was wonderful was the outdoor patio, draped with grape vines, and on Saturday night, they had live Greek music. You were no longer on Wilson Blvd, but in Santorini. My husband and I miss that dearly.

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Sometimes I forget how spoiled we are to live here. Then I travel, and have a mediocre dinner in the best reviewed, most fabulous, hottest restaurant in (fill in the blank), and remember.

When I used to travel for politics I'd often find myself in the kind of mid-sized burg that you don't generally visit for pleasure and won't draw you there for work (Kalamazoo, Modesto, Sioux City) and I'd always ask the locals where a good place to eat was, in search of the increasingly rare Hidden Gem. And they would always, always, always recommend the Olive Garden or the Ponderosa or what what have you, never a Ma's Diner or even the local bar that happens to serve great burgers. On the other hand, the number of laughably bad meals I've had at small town restaurants with a pretense of "sophistication" suggests that, outside of major metro areas, you may as well just throw in the towel and head to the nearest interstate exit, to see what laminated menu restaurant concept has sprung up, like grocery store mushrooms on horse shit.

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When I used to travel for politics I'd often find myself in the kind of mid-sized burg that you don't generally visit for pleasure and won't draw you there for work (Kalamazoo, Modesto, Sioux City) and I'd always ask the locals where a good place to eat was, in search of the increasingly rare Hidden Gem. And they would always, always, always recommend the Olive Garden or the Ponderosa or what what have you, never a Ma's Diner or even the local bar that happens to serve great burgers. On the other hand, the number of laughably bad meals I've had at small town restaurants with a pretense of "sophistication" suggests that, outside of major metro areas, you may as well just throw in the towel and head to the nearest interstate exit, to see what laminated menu restaurant concept has sprung up, like grocery store mushrooms on horse shit.

Not sure if Columbus, Indianapolis, Sandusky (!), and Pittsburgh count as small towns, but I managed to find perfectly lovely meals in all four last summer - yes, even Sandusky, at a place called Crush (remember this if anyone ever goes to Cedar Point). That said, I think all of these (with the exception of Sandusky) are a step up from Kalamazoo, Modesto, and Sioux City. The point I'm trying to make is that young, decent (not great, but decent) chefs are starting to sprout up in smaller towns - they go off to cooking school, then return home. No, the meals aren't any better than you'd find at a L'Academie de Cuisine final, but if you know how to order, you can cobble together a fine meal in many places these days. When I previously went to Pittsburgh about five years ago, there was a lot less to choose from - that city is starting to grow up.

Side note: I happened to notice the other day that the tallest building in both South Dakota and Vermont is 11 stories! South Dakota used to have a 16-story granary; then this, which turned it into 15 stories (before the wrecking ball had at it). A further tangent still: How do you turn a basement apartment into a penthouse suite? Watch and see.

My initial impression to Mark's post about 600 comments in that article was that I felt quite small; then I realized they were Washington Post comments which are something akin to kicking the dog, and without even looking, I'll bet that at some point, they turned into a political free-for-all which renders them meaningless. Readers there may technically be educated, but the lack of moderation turns them into utterly worthless voices whose opinions are being lost to history (justifiably, I may add).

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My initial impression to Mark's post about 600 comments in that article was that I felt quite small; then I realized they were Washington Post comments which are something akin to kicking the dog, and without even looking, I *guarantee* that at some point, they turned into a political free-for-all which renders them meaningless.

Pretty much. There are several posts from "Claudia Monteverdi," a well-known troll/moron on Jennifer Rubin's blog (might even be ol' Jen herself).

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Don, where in Columbus? I travel there once or twice a year

Bodega - it's worth going there just for their wonderful beer selection (look at *just* the drafts). The food was not all that special (although someone wrote me just this past week and told me it's gotten better), but it was good enough for a pleasant post-long-drive dinner based, in our case, around sandwiches. And the beer!

Bodega is actually a *perfect* example of what I envision a young, recent culinary graduate doing if (s)he doesn't want to pay her dues apprenticing under a master chef. There are clear upper limits (which aren't very high) to what this food can ever be, but it's still pleasant enough (especially because of *the beer*!).

Midwestern beer is *the best*.

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Not sure if Columbus, Indianapolis, Sandusky (!), and Pittsburgh count as small towns, but I managed to find perfectly lovely meals in all four last summer - yes, even Sandusky, at a place called Crush (remember this if anyone ever goes to Cedar Point). That said, I think all of these (with the exception of Sandusky) are a step up from Kalamazoo, Modesto, and Sioux City. The point I'm trying to make is that young, decent (not great, but decent) chefs are starting to sprout up in smaller towns - they go off to cooking school, then return home. No, the meals aren't any better than you'd find at a L'Academie de Cuisine final, but if you know how to order, you can cobble together a fine meal in many places these days. When I previously went to Pittsburgh about five years ago, there was a lot less to choose from - that city is starting to grow up.

Side note: I happened to notice the other day that the tallest building in both South Dakota and Vermont is 11 stories! South Dakota used to have a 16-story granary; then this, which turned it into 15 stories (before the wrecking ball had at it). A further tangent still: How do you turn a basement apartment into a penthouse suite? Watch and see.

My initial impression to Mark's post about 600 comments in that article was that I felt quite small; then I realized they were Washington Post comments which are something akin to kicking the dog, and without even looking, I'll bet that at some point, they turned into a political free-for-all which renders them meaningless. Readers there may technically be educated, but the lack of moderation turns them into utterly worthless voices whose opinions are being lost to history (justifiably, I may add).

Boy, I would hope Pittsburgh, Columbus, and Indianapolis have creative chefs, good restaurants and meals. They are reasonably sized cities. I've been to those cities and most of the time with limited time or busy schedules that didn't allow me to explore some restaurants even as i saw stimulating and interesting comments from diners (if the time permitted)

As to the Post volume of comments: hm. 600 comments in about 2-3 days. That is a lot. There is something to be said for being big media or becoming big media one way or the other. The trick, or the magic, or the well funded effort is to get there.

I didn't look through but the first couple of comments. So they aren't curated, moderately controlled or whatever. That volume speaks to the potential entire readership as the 600 comments represents a tiny portion of total readers.

and btw: I've eated off of countless menus from chains without thinking about it too much. and after reading comments above, yep...I suppose they were virtually all representative of the great world of food mediocrity representing certain "themes" that work...big portions, heavily salted, and tons of advertising. etc etc.

Meanwhile I pass by La Tagliata a lot. The outside always looks busy. When possible I've glanced inside and seen it both crowded and sometimes less so.

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When I previously went to Pittsburgh about five years ago, there was a lot less to choose from - that city is starting to grow up.

Next visit to the 'Burgh you might want to hit Spoon - not sure how the food is, but you will see a familiar face pouring you wine.

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Don, where in Columbus? I travel there once or twice a year

I am in Columbus. If you ever need info, PM me. A lot of the real ethnic gems are in the burbs here, but the Short North and other neighborhoods near downtown and campus have oodles of options at all price ranges.

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what burbs? Family lives in Pickerington, there's nothing over there that I have found. Countdown to creation of a Columbus thread if there isn't one

burbs, I mean near or just outside of I-270. For instance, a lot of African (Somali) restaurants have settled around the Cleveland Avenue and 161 area. There are some great Japanese places near Sawmill and 270, which came here with the the Honda Plant workers. The far West and East sides boast some great taco trucks. The Bethel Road corridor has a slew of interesting ethnic independent restaurants. Columbus has good Indian food, at both upscale (Indian Oven, Tadka) and hole-in-the-wall (Dosa Corner) places.

In downtown (where I live) there is a few block area that is starting to be called Little Latin America. There are four places, I think. I've eaten at two and they are yummy. There are at least four really great, independent places pushing the envelope on local, seasonal, farm-to-table that are within 1-2 miles of me: Alana's, Deepwood, Sage and Rigsby's. There are several local ownership groups doing credible, affordable and fun food: Liz Lessner (Betty's, Surly Girl, Grass Skirt), the Club 186 guys (Club 186, Little Palace, El Camino, The Rossi), the Barrell 44 people (Short North and Bexley). Explorer's Club in Merion Village does a Creole/fusion thing that is stellar.

The craft beer and spirits industry is booming here. The are four places brewing beer, one place making mead and a place making vodka within walking distance from my house. I can't keep up with the proliferation of local suds.

I don't know the Pickerington area, but I imagine it is just lots chains, right? Come to the city!!!!!

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Did my grad work at OSU and actually worked at a Japanese restaurant that no longer exists, but was one of the best at the time. Columbus does have surprisingly good Japanese considering it's the middle of nowhere, and it's much more reasonable than DC or NYC, though not quite on par with NYC's best. If they are still up to par, Kihachi and Basho were very good and the biggest competition for where I was working at the time.

A lot of places seem to have changed since I was there and only the Refectory remains, which introduced me to fine dining.

On the other hand, although they are Cincinnati specialties, Skyline Chili and Graeter's Ice cream both have locations in Columbus.

Also, City BBQ is one of the best BBQ places I have ever eaten at.

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Well, I'm getting a hint to why Buca de Beppo is still in business. (It's not because they've gotten any of my money in recent years.) Big plates of stuff which don't cost an arm and a leg. And, it's not like you are "dining" at MacDonald's. I kind of agree with Sietsema about Olive Garden. The last time I ate there (not my choice but, then again, there wasn't a whole lotta choice) I got the most expensive item on the menu (about $13) and it was really not objectionable. Perfectly cooked shrimp with perfectly cooked pasta. And, I was very, very hungry by the time we obtained a table, having had to wait for about 45 minutes. (This experience was in El Paso, TX, BTW.)

Believe it or not, it is pretty expensive to go to Buca. I have one a block from my house and while I don't go often, i admit that I do go.

As an example, for 4 of us (2 adults, 2 tweens) - 4 sodas, 1 appetizer, 1 main, 1 dessert = about $70 as I recall. Yes, these are bird-bath scaled portions....but a trip to Buca should not be made with the notion of saving money.

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yes, even Sandusky, at a place called Crush (remember this if anyone ever goes to Cedar Point).

I've been to Crush once and thought the food was pretty good (especially relative to the other available options) but also highly priced for what you got. I haven't yet tried it for myself, but have heard good things about Brick Oven Bistro. Never thought the Sandusky food "scene" would come up on this board.. but actually, considering the breadth and depth of knowledge and input on this board - I guess I'm not surprised.

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Rebecca Cooper mentioned the opening of the Germantown La Tagliatella in Jan 3rd's Washington Business Journal. After reading it, I wondered why La Tagliatella was referred to as being from Spain, not Poland.

La Tagliatella, the Italian chain from Spain that has been making major headway in the D.C. area over the past year, is under construction and should open "soon," according to its website. A frozen yogurt shop is also planned.

According to Bloomberg Business Week:

Restauravia Grupo Empresarial S.L. owns and operates restaurant chain. The business includes 72 restaurants with 50 Italian restaurants that operate with the mark Trastevere, Pastificio and the Tagliatella and 22 franchise fast-food restaurants of Kentucky Fried Chicken. The company was formerly known as 72 Food Premises and changed its name to Restauravia Grupo Empresarial S.L. in December 2006. The company is based in Pozuelo De Alarcon, Spain. As of April 28, 2011, Restauravia Grupo Empresarial S.L. operates as a subsidiary of AmRest Holdings SE.

So, I guess the press release was written to focus on Resturavia, not AmRest Holdings.

I have a slightly different picture, and he is sitting in Poland.

Interestingly enough the website for the restaurant does not have an option to translate into Italian, I guess they are not a target audience for their "Authentic Italian" cuisine.

Sthitch's link to AmRest's corporate website offers no mention of an office in Spain...

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Sthitch's link to AmRest's corporate website offers no mention of an office in Spain...

In fairness, they don't have an office in Spain...right?  They have AmRest offices, then they have a subsidiary.  Companies have to be careful about keeping the subsidiary separate.  Would we expect Berkshire Hathaway to list See's Candy locations as their own?

My second post in a thread about a restaurant I've never been too!  It is cold out.

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First visit to the Germantown outpost last night.  Let's start by level setting expectations:  This is a chain restaurant in a strip mall in Germantown folks.

Okay, that said, I was actually pretty pleased with our meal.

Decor:  As described by TomS.  Lots of dark wood, red pain and gold accents.  Italian map mural on the wall, red leather banquettes along the walls, and a few too many tchotchkes about.  The pizza oven is front and center when you walk through the door.  Given the temps last night, it was a welcome site.  Not sure how I'll feel about it in August.

Service:  Nathan was great.  Yes, there's a spiel about the menu and their best app/pizza/entree at the beginning, but hey, his Manager tells him he has to say that.  Once that was over, he was great.  Very accommodating, attentive, and genial.

Drinks:  The "seasonal craft beer" was Blue Moon.  Neither seasonal nor craft.  They did have a local DC Brau 'The Corruption' on tap, which gave Hubby something to order.   I ordered a vodka based cocktail.  Was it great?  No, but it was better than a lot of the crap cocktails they serve in chain restaurants these days.   Beer was $5, cocktail was $9.  Pretty much in the ballpark for MoCo.

Food:  Bread service was a basket of small round "rolls" served with a spiced olive oil.  They came out piping hot, but I thought they were pretty flavorless.

Hubby started with the mussels  They were traditional white wine and garlic, served with two bread "sticks" for lack of a better description.  Hubby pretty much always orders mussels when he sees them on a menu.  These were better than the last several variations he's had.  He thought there was a strong taste of lemon, I didn't even notice it.  I really like the bread they served with the mussels.

Entrees were pasta for him and pizza for me.  The pasta was one of the Chef's recommendations:  Penne in a cream sauce with sausage, mushrooms, tomatoes, pine nuts and Mascarapone.   The pasta is quite al dente.  A bit underdone for Hubby's tastes, but the flavor was good.  I like the fact that the pasta is not swimming in sauce, it's fully dressed with sauce, but there's no puddle at the bottom of your bowl.

I was really pleased with my pizza.  It was a generous size, maybe 14 inches.  The crust is very thin, cracker-y at the edges, nicely blistered.  Very reminiscent of the pies we had in Italy.  The eponymous Tagliatella is served with a very light portion of sauce, mozzarella, fried eggplant (so thin, you can't even tell it's eggplant), Parmigiano-Reggiano drizzled with a honey balsamic reduction.  I would absolutely give it an A.  

All in we were at $65 before tip.  Not bad for a nice meal out with a couple of drinks these days.  We will definitely go back.  

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In fairness, they don't have an office in Spain...right?  They have AmRest offices, then they have a subsidiary.  Companies have to be careful about keeping the subsidiary separate.  Would we expect Berkshire Hathaway to list See's Candy locations as their own?

My second post in a thread about a restaurant I've never been too!  It is cold out.

Have you ever read something, thought "that guy's an idiot!" then realized it was your own writing?

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This is a chain restaurant in a strip mall in Germantown folks. 

There's a much better Italian option in a nearby Germantown strip mall: Agrodolce.

It's in the same building as the Verizon store, between Bob Evans and Home Depot.

They do counter service at lunch and sit-down table service at dinner. I've only been there for lunch, and the food is excellent. Wide variety, but no one from our office has ever made a disappointing choice.

It's infinitely better than the Tagliatella in Clarendon (I haven't tried the Germantown one, and probably won't bother).

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