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yeah, from about 4pm until 10 last night I couldn't get access to the site at all. i sat there for 6 hours hitting REFRESH REFRESH. panic set in. i began to sweat and my hands shook.

i need to find a hobby.

Me too. I could view the board index, but couldn't access any actual posts. No problems today.

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I think that what happened was that the donrockwell.com zone got fat-fingered...

The nameservers for donrockwell.com -- as given in the donrockwell.com zone -- seem to have been set for a while to ns1.ipsink.com and ns2.ipsink.com. Unfortunately, that domain doesn't exist. However, the delegation in the com servers seems to have been correct.

So things would kinda-sorta work, sometimes, for a while: you'd look up www.donrockwell.com, and your nameserver wouldn't know jack about it, so it'd ask the com nameservers "gimme the address for www.donrockwell.com", and it'd get back "I don't know, go ask ns1.ipslink.com and ns2.ipslink.com, here's the IP addresses".

So (as a mild oversimplication), that'd get cached in the nameserver, and you'd go ask ns1.ipslink.com or ns2.ipslink.com, and you'd get an answer, which you'd also cache for a while. In that process, you'd end up getting the "official" nameservers from the donrockwell.com zone, which are the ones that were misspelled.

But eventually your cached address record for donrockwell.com would time out.

So you'd have to go ask the nameservers for donrockwell.com for the answer again.

But the only nameservers you now know about don't exist (because of that missing 'l'). So you can't get an answer.

I think this has been fixed in the donrockwell.com zone, so my guess is that as the botched nameserver records for donrockwell.com time out, people should regain access. Here at Maison Miller, I restarted the nameserver to force that to happen, but most people don't run nameservers at home...

That's the quick (and not so clear) version -- I should go back to listening to my work conference call. I guess. :(

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Here at Maison Miller, I restarted the nameserver to force that to happen, but most people don't run nameservers at home...

An increasing number of home routers now come with built-in DNS caching, and some will default to handing out the router's own address with any DHCP requests instead of forwarding bits from the WAN side. So in fact, a fair number of people may simply be unaware that they have a nameserver at home.

English translation: things should fix themselves eventually, but the impatient might also consider unplugging/replugging the power to their (wireless) router, if rebooting their PC doesn't work.

(Dang, I get to add info to a MrP post on networking? :( I first learned IP programming from a primer he coauthored in '84...)

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I spoke too soon -- it's still horked up.

What my nameserver here said before I reloaded:

[steve@newbie steve]$ dig ns donrockwell.com.

; <<>> DiG 9.3.3 <<>> ns donrockwell.com.

;; global options: printcmd

;; Got answer:

;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 32883

;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:

;donrockwell.com. IN NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 69884 IN NS ns2.ipsink.com.

donrockwell.com. 69884 IN NS ns1.ipsink.com.

so again I'm pointed at the bogus "ipsink" nameservers.

The com servers say:

; <<>> DiG 9.3.3 <<>> @a.gtld-servers.net a www.donrockwell.com.

; (2 servers found)

;; global options: printcmd

;; Got answer:

;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26853

;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:

;www.donrockwell.com. IN A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.ipslink.com.

donrockwell.com. 172800 IN NS ns2.ipslink.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

ns1.ipslink.com. 172800 IN A 67.15.107.31

ns2.ipslink.com. 172800 IN A 67.15.107.32

and the nameservers at ipslink.com both say:

; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> @ns2.ipslink.com soa donrockwell.com

; (1 server found)

;; global options: printcmd

;; Got answer:

;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 469

;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:

;donrockwell.com. IN SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 14440 IN SOA ns1.ipsink.com. servnotify.invisionpower.com. 2008010901 14400 7200 3600000 86400

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.ipsink.com.

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.ipsink.com.

so they're definitely the ones handing out the bad information (or ipsink.com is a domain that's supposed to exist, but I think whois would behave slightly differently if that was indeed the case).

So if you don't already have NS or A records for donrockwell.com, you'll ask the com servers, who'll point you temporarily at the right ones, until your nameserver tosses the glue that the com server provides and gets the "real" answer from the authoritative servers. Or something much like that.

But the people who manage the donrockwell.com domain need to fix their freakin' typo!

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I just got this message from Invision's system administrator (sent at 2:41 PM)

---

Hello,

We have been having some DNS issues this morning that we just corrected. It will take 3-4 hours for the DNS to completely work itself out though.

Thank you,

XXXX YYYY

System Administrator

Invision Power Services

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While it's possible that the Invision people are correct, there is at least some reason to think they're wrong, as it's been more than 3-4 hours, and the DNS for donrockwell.com is still botched (see below).

Perhaps they could elaborate on the DNS problem they had, because maybe they had more than one DNS problem...

; <<>> DiG 9.3.3 <<>> @ns1.ipslink.com soa donrockwell.com.

; (1 server found)

;; global options: printcmd

;; Got answer:

;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63145

;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:

;donrockwell.com. IN SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 14440 IN SOA ns1.ipsink.com. servnotify.invisionpower.com. 2008010901 14400 7200 3600000 86400

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.ipsink.com.

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.ipsink.com.

;; Query time: 63 msec

;; SERVER: 67.15.107.31#53(67.15.107.31)

;; WHEN: Thu Jan 10 20:41:48 2008

;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 137

; <<>> DiG 9.3.3 <<>> @ns2.ipslink.com soa donrockwell.com.

; (1 server found)

;; global options: printcmd

;; Got answer:

;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63834

;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:

;donrockwell.com. IN SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 14440 IN SOA ns1.ipsink.com. servnotify.invisionpower.com. 2008010901 14400 7200 3600000 86400

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.ipsink.com.

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.ipsink.com.

;; Query time: 49 msec

;; SERVER: 67.15.107.32#53(67.15.107.32)

;; WHEN: Thu Jan 10 20:43:19 2008

;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 137

[steve@newbie steve]$ whois ipsink.com

Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered

with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net

for detailed information.

No match for "IPSINK.COM".

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While it's possible that the Invision people are correct, there is at least some reason to think they're wrong, as it's been more than 3-4 hours, and the DNS for donrockwell.com is still botched (see below).

Perhaps they could elaborate on the DNS problem they had, because maybe they had more than one DNS problem...

...

;; ANSWER SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 14440 IN SOA ns1.ipsink.com. servnotify.invisionpower.com. 2008010901 14400 7200 3600000 86400

I'm going with the "wrong" theory. DIG is still reporting the above SOA against from both ns1 and ns2.ipslink.com; the safety net seems to be that the gtld servers still have the old, "correct" information cached (with a 48 hr TTL). As the error appears to have been introduced within the past 47 hours, this might get worse first.

Following convention, the serial number of 2008010901 indicates that Invision's server is still using the version of the zone config that was edited yesterday, containing the errors. Looks like somebody didn't drink their coffee that morning: in addition to misspelling "ipslink", they set a TTL value for the SOA record of 14440 instead of the commonly-used value of 1440 (seconds, or about four hours).

If Invision made corrections to the configs for donrockwell.com earlier today, their servers still don't know about it.

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I think Invision thinks they've fixed something, but they don't know about the typo, because they're not paying attention.

The serial number on the SOA has changed, which indicates that they've changed something, and they're following a convention that leads me to think they've changed something today.

But they still don't have the l in ipslink.com.

Argh. If it'd help, I'd be happy to talk to them directly.

Dave, do you have a static IP address? We could just ask Don if he could change nameservers through his registrar, to something we control... :(

; <<>> DiG 9.3.3 <<>> @ns2.ipslink.com soa donrockwell.com.

; (1 server found)

;; global options: printcmd

;; Got answer:

;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33774

;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:

;donrockwell.com. IN SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.ipsink.com. servnotify.invisionpower.com. 2008011101 86400 7200 3600000 86400

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.ipsink.com.

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.ipsink.com.

;; Query time: 47 msec

;; SERVER: 67.15.107.32#53(67.15.107.32)

;; WHEN: Fri Jan 11 19:05:29 2008

;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 137

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I think Invision thinks they've fixed something, but they don't know about the typo, because they're not paying attention.

The serial number on the SOA has changed, which indicates that they've changed something, and they're following a convention that leads me to think they've changed something today.

But they still don't have the l in ipslink.com.

I just passed your message onto Invision, and found this note from about 3 PM:

"I went ahead and deleted and recreated the DNS zone for the site. This should ensure that everyone gets an update. It will take 3-4 hours to completely update for most users."

Thanks MrPorcupine!

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I think they're just thinking "oh, gotta recreate this", and not realizing that they've fumble-fingered their idea of what should go in the zone...

If the serial number doesn't change from 2008011101 in the next few hours, the update's already happened; if it does change but there's no 'l' yet, they definitely don't recognize the typo. We shall see.

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I think they're just thinking "oh, gotta recreate this", and not realizing that they've fumble-fingered their idea of what should go in the zone...

If the serial number doesn't change from 2008011101 in the next few hours, the update's already happened; if it does change but there's no 'l' yet, they definitely don't recognize the typo. We shall see.

Mr. Porcupine, you were absolutely correct, and you rock our world. Invision's response:

"Hi there!

You can thank your user for their diligence - there was indeed a typo that stemmed from a minor configuration error when the server was setup, this has now been corrected and I've verified that your individual DNS zone has been corrected as well... hopefully this will fix the issue for your guests.

Please let us know if there are any further problems, sorry for the inconvenience!

Regards,

Ryan Strauss

Senior Systems Engineer

Invision Power Services, Inc.

To better assist our customers, IPS wants to get some feedback from our hosting customers about their experience with our hosting services. Please take the time to fill out the hosting survey by clicking "your Feedback" from the left hand side of the screen of your client center and clicking the survey title "Hosting Survey.""

All this to say, Mr. Porcupine, that your pit-bull-like dilligence found the typo. Typos, by my experience as a programmer, are devilishly difficult to find, but once they're found, it's obvious they're a primary cause of woe. You found it, they ended up listening, and this entire community owes you a debt of gratitute. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.

This could have dragged on for days or a week if it weren't for your dilligence. Cheers, man! Rocks.

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Thanks! And glad I could be of help.

I think it'll take a while longer for some of the "bad" nameserver records to work their way out of people's caches; the time-to-live on the broken records was one day, so an ever-decreasing amount of stuff will stay broken until up to 24 hours after the fix was installed. I know I had to restart the nameserver in my house to force the bad NS records to be flushed.

But a DNS lookup by hand now shows that things are in good shape (and the serial number was incremented, in a way that makes it likely that they did this before midnight (-: ).

; <<>> DiG 9.3.3 <<>> @ns1.ipslink.com soa donrockwell.com.

; (1 server found)

;; global options: printcmd

;; Got answer:

;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54115

;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:

;donrockwell.com. IN SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN SOA ns1.ipslink.com. servnotify.invisionpower.com. 2008011102 86400 7200 3600000 86400

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.ipslink.com.

donrockwell.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.ipslink.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

ns1.ipslink.com. 3600 IN A 67.15.107.31

ns2.ipslink.com. 3600 IN A 67.15.107.32

;; Query time: 47 msec

;; SERVER: 67.15.107.31#53(67.15.107.31)

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No big deal, but I have not been getting notification of personal messages that await me when I log in.

I think that the ipsink-versus-ipslink confusion was still there, off in some corner somewhere, either in the mail-server config on the Invision side or on the part of the DNS that turns IP addresses back into hostnames. My home "show me whose email I've rejected today for not being from a real domain" report was showing failures for a while from server42.ipsink.com.

I didn't have time to track this down, but the last occurrence I see of this in my mail logs was on Jan 21, and the email notification for a test PM I sent myself made it to me, so I think this has been fixed. I now see server42.ipslink.com in the mail headers on the "you have a PM" notification.

(I was reminded of this yesterday while talking with another dr.com member, and finally had a few minutes to check into it...)

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So it's been suggested that I post this explanation here:

Basically when you reply you get a screen that looks like

["quote"]asdflkj["/quote"]

What you should do is after the quote only hit enter once or not at all...

so either

["/quote"]hi

or

["/quote"]

hi

thus resulting in (note the spacing between the quote and the hi)

asdflkj
hi

or

asdflkj

hi

Hopefully this is clearer =D

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All,

A terrible tragedy has befallen one of our own. Especially after some initial misreporting on the internet (the details you might have seen on another website were false), things must necessarily remain silent out of respect for family members, and not be discussed here. Please say a prayer for one of our family.

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FROM HILLVALLEY'S POST LAST DECEMBER

A retrospective of Don's history of triple spacing issues over the past two and a half years. (Feels a lot longer, doesn't it?)

*This post has been altered to remove all triple and quadruple spacing.

what are you trying to say, Don?
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Thanks! That's just what I needed to set my view to Standard!

Sometimes a Google search will return a thread in "Outline" form, which is incredibly annoying and won't go away until you manually reset your settings to "Standard." Thanks for bringing this up, mktye - I suspect some people have simply given up and gone away because of being trapped in perma-Outline mode.

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3) Uncheck the "Is Daylight Savings Time In Effect?" box and click on "Adjust my account settings"

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Funny, today as I read this, I was thinking, just replace "George W. Bush" with "Don Rockwell":

The Decency of George W. Bush

By Michael Gerson

Friday, November 7, 2008; Page A19

"...But that humanity is precisely what I will remember. I have seen President Bush show more loyalty than he has been given, more generosity than he has received. I have seen his buoyancy under the weight of malice and his forgiveness of faithless friends. Again and again, I have seen the natural tug of his pride swiftly overcome by a deeper decency -- a decency that is privately engaging and publicly consequential..."

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Invision's down, it's heaven;

The foodie boards are fried.

No Plotz to bore us;

No Rocks, Fat Guy.

Invision's got no people

Solving it today.

Invision's not a country

For leaders to rue.

But it's quite an eyesore,

With sacred cows too.

Invision's got no people

Left for it to fleece.

You may say that I'm a flamer,

But I'm not the only one.

They hope someday to destroy us,

Like the world's latest Hun.

Invison's not a blessing.

No hope for no man

To talk of greed or hunger,

And the overcooked lamb.

Invision's got no people

Left to save the world.

You may say that I'm a flamer,

But I'm not the only one.

They hope someday to destroy us,

Like the world's latest Hun.

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