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#1 DonRocks

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 10:41 PM

I just got this email, and this cellar is going to be first-come first-served, but I'll give everyone until Monday at noon to have an equal chance. No partial lots. I'm going to be off-line for awhile, so please reply on this thread rather than PM, and I'll check as time permits. I'd buy most of these myself if I wasn't short on cash. Cheers, and have at it. Rocks.

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Haut-Brion 1982 $240 3 bottles
Ausone 1990 $120 2 bottles
Pichon-Lalande 1978 $30 4 bottles
Palmer 1983 $110 1 bottle
Yquem 1986 .375 $80 10 bottles

Ausone 1964 $130 1 bottle
Pichon-Longueville 1990 $60 6 bottles
Rieussec 1979 $20 1 bottle
Issan 2000 $15 2 bottles
Latour 1985 $80 4 bottles

Fonseca Port 1963 $60 4 bottles
Orin Swift "The Prisoner" 2002 $8 12 bottles
Ondine Wine Goblets (4) circa 1914 $16 each
La Mission Haut-Brion 1989 $180 9 bottles
Silex 2001 Didier Dagueneau $15 11 bottles

Ducru-Beaucaillou 1986 $45 18 bottles
Armand Rousseau 1993 Chambertin "Clos de Beze" $90 1 bottle
Y (Ygrec) Dry White Wine of Yquem 1998 $20 16 bottles

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 05:28 AM

I'll take the La Mission Haut-Brion, please.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 08:02 AM

I'll take the Pichon-Lalandes and Rieussec. Anyone want to split the Fonsecas and Ygrecs with me?

Rocks, provenance is good?
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 08:17 AM

Anyone want to split the Fonsecas and Ygrecs with me?

I'm in for the Fonsecas--I'll take 2 if you want 2, or 1 if you want 3.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 08:18 AM

2 and 2 sounds good to me!
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 08:43 AM

I'll take the Yquem and the Fonseca

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 10:16 AM

I'm in for the Issan.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 11:31 AM

I'll take the Yquem and the Fonseca

Also the Pichon-Longueville if it is the "Baron"
and the 1983 Palmer

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 11:59 AM

I'm in for the Latour. I'll go halfsies if anyone else is interested.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 12:07 PM

I will take The Prisoner and Latour. Silex 2001 Didier Dagueneau also.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 12:21 PM

The Ondine Goblets also....

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 12:22 PM

How was all this stored? Did he have control of the bottles for the whole time or did he buy some of them elsewhere and how were they stored there?

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 12:42 PM

I will take the following:

I'll go halfies on the Latour (2 bottles) - if still available
all of the following:
1982 Haut Brion
1990 Aussone
1964 Ausson
1986 Ducru
1998 "Y" white wine

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 12:56 PM

Never mind. I missed the "you have to buy all of them" part and I can't buy 9 bottles at $180 per bottle.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 01:27 PM

Heather - I will take the all of the La Mission Haut Brion and split whatever you want!

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 02:05 PM

Here is my revised list, based on what has gone before... I think...

I will take the following:

all of the following:
1982 Haut Brion
1989 La Mission Haut Brion
1990 Aussone
1964 Ausson
1986 Ducru Beaucaillou
1998 "Y" white wine

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 02:50 PM

Heather - I will take the all of the La Mission Haut Brion and split whatever you want!

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Vineguy, I'll take whatever LMHB you will spare!

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 02:53 PM

Anything for you Mud! Maybe we could work out an exchange program with your D'Yquem <_<
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:20 PM

I am in for the following if they can be made available:

Haut-Brion 1982 $240 3 bottles
Pichon-Lalande 1978 $30 4 bottles
Yquem 1986 .375 $80 10 bottles
Pichon-Longueville 1990 $60 6 bottles
Latour 1985 $80 4 bottles
La Mission Haut-Brion 1989 $180 9 bottles
Ducru-Beaucaillou 1986 $45 18 bottles

if it is too late to get any of them:

Vine Guy:

Could you please spare a bottle of the Haut Brion , it is my most favorite wine and vintage I've ever tasted and never thought I would get a chance again to do so. Also, if you could spare some Ducru-Beaucaillou please let me know.


Raiseb,

Could you spare a bottle or two of the Latour?


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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:21 PM

anyone have a picture of the goblets?
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 07:31 PM

Doesn't how this stuff was stored matter to any of you? Twenty, forty year old wine can be valueless unless properly stored. If you buy wine from a store and it is "corked" or has been exposed to heat then you have recourse. With a private sale it is a different situation. It is absolutely essential that the wine be sold with the understanding that it has been properly stored and not exposed to excessive heat or vibration. Just a quick word from Rockwell confirming the proper storage of it or from whoever is selling this is all that is necessary. Without this it is sold as is. For that matter, am I correct that this is being sold "as is?" Or is there a warranty that it is all in good condiition or a condition that could be reasonably expected given its age?

There's not an auction house in the world that will sell a bottle of wine without knowing its "history." Just that confirmation and everyone can have at it. Without, I'm just shaking my head. Sorry, to sound negative, but this is a minimal expectation.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 09:18 PM

Joe....I think most of us are assuming that don wouldnt post this on the board and endorse his friend, if he wasnt assured that the wine was properly handled and stored.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 09:32 PM

I'll take the Pichon-Lalandes and Rieussec.  Anyone want to split the Fonsecas and Ygrecs with me?

Rocks, provenance is good?


I'm just waiting for the same confirmation that, I assume, JParrott is.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 09:57 PM

Joe....I think most of us are assuming that don wouldnt post this on the board and endorse his friend, if he wasnt assured that the wine was properly handled and stored.

Joe, I agree with Jonathan. I trust Rocks to not put it up there if it's questionable.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 10:26 PM

There's not an auction house in the world that will sell a bottle of wine without knowing its "history."  Just that confirmation and everyone can have at it.  Without, I'm just shaking my head.  Sorry, to sound negative, but this is a minimal expectation.

Many years ago, about 1977, I attended a Sothebys auction in Geneva. Michael Broadbent was wandering around the room. There was a huge amount of 50's and 60's Bordeaux being offered. Oddly, the type of bottles the wines were in (shallow punt) did not exist until the early '70's, and even then were rare for fine Bordeaux. Also the lables were in extraordinarily good condition, like new.

One may draw one's own conclusions about the auction houses of the world.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 10:49 PM

Many years ago, about 1977, I attended a Sothebys auction in Geneva.  Michael Broadbent was wandering around the room.  There was a huge amount of 50's and 60's Bordeaux being offered.  Oddly, the type of bottles the wines were in (shallow punt) did not exist until the early '70's, and even then were rare for fine Bordeaux.  Also the lables were in extraordinarily good condition, like new.

One may draw one's own conclusions about the auction houses of the world.


I sold a six pack of '85 Caymus Special Select and a six pack of '85 Groth Reserve at auction about ten years ago. (Now, I wish I hadn't!) I know what I was asked before they would accept the lot. I am suggesting that with wine auctions becoming a more widespread/acceptible form of purchasing wine closer attention is paid to its history. Regardless, I'm just asking how this stuff was stored. Proper cellaring for its release from the winery gives it a higher value than sitting in someone's basement. Or if they bought it or some of it from someone else. This shouldn't be the big deal that it seems to be turning into. I didn't intend for this to be going in this direction. I've just been burned a few times in private sales and have learned to ask this as a standard question especially with wine with significant age. It's just business. All of this can be quickly ended with a response from Don.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 11:53 PM

I'm sure Don will respond when he is able, but I also would want a little more information, not just so that those who want specific items can learn the provenance and storage history (if known) but about payment method, what guarantees are being given (if any) and by whom, and proposed method(s) of pickup or delivery. If the wines are all simply "as is" and "where is" then those who are interested will be able to take that information into consideration.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:52 AM

I heard from Rocks, and although he isn't sure of the pedigree of the 63 Fonseca and 64 Ausone, he pretty much assured me that nobody would be buying any bad wines. Also, he said he'd be checking in around lunchtime to get the final wish-list for a possible lottery.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:32 AM

Lottery? I thought it was first come first served?

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:43 AM

Just read through this and would take the Latour, Pichon-Longueville, and Pichon-Lalandes.

I would not mind splitting things up a bit.

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:48 AM

Heather - I will take the all of the La Mission Haut Brion and split whatever you want!

Scott

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I would take 2 or 3, depending on how many others are interested.

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:53 AM

I could go for a half dozen bottles of the Ducru.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 10:59 AM

I heard from Rocks, and although he isn't sure of the pedigree of the 63 Fonseca and 64 Austone, he pretty much assured me that nobody would be buying any bad wines.  Also, he said he'd be checking in around lunchtime to get the final wish-list for a possible lottery.

I thought it was first-come first-served, too.

If there's going to be a lottery, I might want to change my answers. There were things I was interested in, but they'd already been spoken for!
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:03 AM

I thought it was first-come first-served, too.

If there's going to be a lottery, I might want to change my answers.  There were things I was interested in, but they'd already been spoken for!

What she said! And I wouldn't mind a couple bottle of Ducru.

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:09 AM

What she said!  And I wouldn't mind a couple bottle of Ducru.

I think some things are best left alone Mr. Rockwell, don't try to please everyone. My 2cents and a bottle of aspirin for you.

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:49 AM

I think some things are best left alone Mr. Rockwell, don't try to please everyone. My 2cents and a bottle of aspirin for you.

I agree! We were all playing nicely in the first place. Best not to change the rules.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:53 AM

I'll go in for the Silex as well.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:54 AM

i read it as first come first serve and as a lottery. i would love to get some, regardless.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:26 PM

I can't take it anymore.

It's settled. I called Rock's friend directly and purchased the entire lot. This was an incredible deal! Almost UNBELIEVABLE. You will now have to purchase them through me and I insist on a slight markup. Sorry for bypassing the system but business is business.

Oh yeah, before you contact me please go back to the original post and read the first letter of each wine vertically. And please take special note of the date.

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:30 PM

That's painfull. Good one, but oh so painful.

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:30 PM

Har.

Signed,

Cake-boy.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:30 PM

doh....thats why i'm a chef, not a sommelier.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:31 PM

That was great!

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:34 PM

I suspected something, but am thinking Shogun was in on the joke.

ETA: Shogun, but you confirmed the provenance of the wines. That made me think it was legit.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:35 PM

The winner, and still champion.....

ETA: J.G.: I wish!
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:37 PM

<_<

I am blaming my gullibilty on insomnia.

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:38 PM

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:52 PM

<_<

I am blaming my gullibilty on insomnia.

Or the lingering effects of jet lag ...

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:58 PM

I just got this email, and this cellar is going to be first-come first-served, but I'll give everyone until Monday at noon to have an equal chance.  No partial lots.  I'm going to be off-line for awhile, so please reply on this thread rather than PM, and I'll check as time permits.  I'd buy most of these myself if I wasn't short on cash.  Cheers, and have at it.  Rocks. 



You know, that's just not funny. I passed on some other things this weekend because I allocated funds for these wines. Now those other oportunities are gone. Just not funny to have let it go on past the 1st...... <_<

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Posted 03 April 2006 - 01:00 PM

Especially when you triple-space.
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