Pressure Cookers
#1
Posted 16 November 2006 - 05:17 PM
*Posted with permission from DR
#2
Posted 20 December 2006 - 03:29 PM
#3
Posted 20 December 2006 - 03:48 PM
So, you can make dal with those things too?
--------Dëgg kaani la (Truth is a hot pepper)--- Wolof proverb
#4
Posted 20 December 2006 - 04:12 PM
My parents insisted that we always eat a home cooked meal together virtually every day. We rarely ate out or ordered in food. Both mom and dad worked and they would cook as soon as they got home, instead of relaxing. I never realized until just now how important it was to them that we all sat together for this one meal. Using a pressure cooker was essential in getting some of the dishes to the table in reasonable time.
My dad would always make his kasha mangsho (lamb curry) in a pressure cooker. Mom would occassionally use it as well for doing large batches of chicken curry (I think she called it murghi pathla jhol???). I've started using the pressure cooker for these dishes, as well as for making western style chilis and stews. Absolutely indispensable.
#5
Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:10 AM
I got a digital pressure cooker for Christmas, after hearing Bobby Flay comment that he had learned to use one on ICA and now finds it extremely useful. I opted for digital, because with my attention span issues, I'd walk away from a stovetop model at the wrong moment.
It took me a little while to figure out how to cook some of my favorites, but I've made short ribs, beef pot roasts, and pork braises. The butter chicken recipe I found in a PC cookbook was out of this world!
This morning I tried cooking rice (brown Basmati), and it didn't turn out quite as I expected, but still usable for my purpose (a little too much water, not long enough pressure time at first, too much oil).
What has worked for you in your pressure cooker (and what went bust)?
#6
Posted 24 June 2008 - 04:29 PM
Lorna Sass has some great cookbooks that give times and water ratios for all sorts of beans and grains. That might help with the rice. Happy pressuring!
-Linda
#7
Posted 03 September 2008 - 07:34 AM
#8
Posted 09 June 2009 - 10:10 AM
Any recent reports, recipes, tips, recommendations? How has yours worked out mdt? What kind did you get?
I know my parents had one when I was a kid, but I don't remember what they cooked with it. One of the main reasons I'd like to get one is so I can try to replicate a dish that my French host mother prepared during my study abroad year - Poulet Dakar. My memory of it is a whole chicken (cut up?), 5 lemons cut in half, and 4-5 onions quartered - throw it all in the pressure cooker 'til it's done, serve with rice and a sauce of crème fraîche and lemon juice.
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#9
Posted 09 June 2009 - 10:33 AM
#10
Posted 09 June 2009 - 12:06 PM
This is the one that I have. It has served me well so far and I use it for beans, greens, rice, and various braises. I have been pleased with the results. Some of the braises require browning first but then you just put the stuff in the cooker and walk away.I've been thinking about getting a pressure cooker for a while. Seeing KMango's post in the Dinner thread prompted me to pull up this thread.
Any recent reports, recipes, tips, recommendations? How has yours worked out mdt? What kind did you get?
I know my parents had one when I was a kid, but I don't remember what they cooked with it. One of the main reasons I'd like to get one is so I can try to replicate a dish that my French host mother prepared during my study abroad year - Poulet Dakar. My memory of it is a whole chicken (cut up?), 5 lemons cut in half, and 4-5 onions quartered - throw it all in the pressure cooker 'til it's done, serve with rice and a sauce of crème fraîche and lemon juice.
It has allowed me to make things in far less time than the standard which works out great when you are running short on time.
#11
Posted 09 June 2009 - 01:11 PM
#12
Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:43 PM
#13
Posted 11 June 2009 - 09:11 AM
I love making quick risotto this way [I know, the horror
Awaiting the fall again to make another batch of Roasted Butternut Squash Risotto, yummy!
Making stocks in here is another easy thing to do.
#14
Posted 14 September 2009 - 12:42 PM
I took it out for the first test run yesterday, making an improvised version of borracho beans. After a false start I figured out that the safety valve rises as pressure builds. It took a little while to get up to pressure, but being able to cook beans in about 12 minutes was great (after a 4 hour soak).
I found the information on the Miss Vickie's website very helpful, particularly the dried bean cooking time table.
I'm curious about making risotto in the cooker - I like the stirring, adding liquid, stirring, etc. What is the process in a pressure cooker? And does it affect the texture beyond the initial 'goopiness' noted by collije?I love my pressure cooker, and I use it mainly for risotto and to cook dried beans on a whim.
Hope to give some braising a try pretty soon. As always, any pointers or favorite recipes will be much appreciated!
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#15
Posted 14 September 2009 - 01:33 PM
I'm not sure about the goopiness - maybe this is describing the relatively solid-ish mass after the lid comes off? I've never made risotto without a pressure cooker, and I've never had anyone guess that's how I made it. The texture is the same *unless* you cook too long. I use the methods from Lorna Sass, who writes great pressure cooker cookbooks.I'm curious about making risotto in the cooker - I like the stirring, adding liquid, stirring, etc. What is the process in a pressure cooker? And does it affect the texture beyond the initial 'goopiness' noted by collije?
Sweat out shallots, onions, garlic, peppers, whatever aromatics you want in a little olive oil. Add in 1 1/2 cups of rice, then cook it a bit until it's toasty and oil coats everything. I brown in each step depending on what I add in later - delicate items = less browning. Pour in some wine. I haven't looked at the book in ages - 1/2 cup maybe? Maybe a little more? Four or five big glugs. You stir this around and let it soak in/evaporate. Now pour in 3 1/2 cups of stock, stir everything around, and lock the lid. After it comes to pressure, cook 7 minutes. Go six the first time just to see how your cooker works. You may need to cook a little longer on the stove. Do a quick release, stir, add cheese if you're using it, stir again, add in your asparagus, peas, roasted squash, or whatever you are using, a couple of minutes with the lid on for it to rest, a final stir, maybe a bit of butter, then serve. Because the heat in a pressure cooker is so high, I find that asparagus cooks to a tender crispness if I toss it in after I take off the lid, stir it in, then put the lid on top for a minute or two.
That's a lot of paraphrasing - she gives really exacting methods in the cookbooks. I've been doing it so long, from the time I start chopping to the moment it goes into the dishes, I can have a nice risotto dinner in half an hour. And if your friends are dubious about pressure cooking risotto, serve it to them without telling them how you made it, then surprise them at exactly the right moment.
#16
Posted 15 September 2009 - 10:14 AM
#17
Posted 15 September 2009 - 10:30 AM
In fact, it was for cheesecakes (and ribs, I suppose) that I waited to get that cooker (via eBay). It is low-and-wide rather than tall-and-deep and so can accommodate a 9" springform pan or a flat piece of meat easily.
I'll have to try flan soon...
Certified Nerd and Oh So Boring...
#18
Posted 15 September 2009 - 02:34 PM
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#19
Posted 15 September 2009 - 02:43 PM
Indeed, they are. The other day, I placed six CSA sweet potatoes (scrubbed, but skins on, cut into 1.5 to 2-inch dice) with just under a cup of water into the pot, brought it to high pressure for eight minutes, quick-released the pressure, and drained the excess water. A splash of maple syrup and a dash of sea salt later, these had my dinner guests trash-talking all previous renditions of the tuber.Risotto will be on my list of experiments. Chocolate and Zucchini has what sounds like a tasty recipe for Porcini Walnut Risotto. From the same page, I followed a link to a Cooking Light page that has several pressure cooker recipes ranging from beet salad to barbecue brisket. The possibilities seem to be endless!
You'll be amazed at the intensity of flavor that comes out of that pot with the reduced cooking times.
#20
Posted 15 September 2009 - 03:05 PM
I am not really clear as to why this is not considered a pilaf, rather than risotto. Other than the addition and evaporation of a small amount of wine before adding all of the liquid, it proceeds like a pilaf (saute onion and rice in oil, add liquid, cover and cook until all of the liquid has been absorbed). The whole point of a risotto is that the liquid is added in small increments and the rice is frequently stirred as it slowly absorbs the small additions of liquid. I suppose, if you really stretched it, it could be considered a pilaf/risotto hybrid: pilatto or risolaf anyone?I'm not sure about the goopiness - maybe this is describing the relatively solid-ish mass after the lid comes off? I've never made risotto without a pressure cooker, and I've never had anyone guess that's how I made it. The texture is the same *unless* you cook too long. I use the methods from Lorna Sass, who writes great pressure cooker cookbooks.
Sweat out shallots, onions, garlic, peppers, whatever aromatics you want in a little olive oil. Add in 1 1/2 cups of rice, then cook it a bit until it's toasty and oil coats everything. I brown in each step depending on what I add in later - delicate items = less browning. Pour in some wine. I haven't looked at the book in ages - 1/2 cup maybe? Maybe a little more? Four or five big glugs. You stir this around and let it soak in/evaporate. Now pour in 3 1/2 cups of stock, stir everything around, and lock the lid. After it comes to pressure, cook 7 minutes. Go six the first time just to see how your cooker works. You may need to cook a little longer on the stove. Do a quick release, stir, add cheese if you're using it, stir again, add in your asparagus, peas, roasted squash, or whatever you are using, a couple of minutes with the lid on for it to rest, a final stir, maybe a bit of butter, then serve. Because the heat in a pressure cooker is so high, I find that asparagus cooks to a tender crispness if I toss it in after I take off the lid, stir it in, then put the lid on top for a minute or two.
That's a lot of paraphrasing - she gives really exacting methods in the cookbooks. I've been doing it so long, from the time I start chopping to the moment it goes into the dishes, I can have a nice risotto dinner in half an hour. And if your friends are dubious about pressure cooking risotto, serve it to them without telling them how you made it, then surprise them at exactly the right moment.
#21
Posted 10 January 2010 - 09:40 PM
I'm still getting familiar with the cooker and knowing what temperature to adjust the burner to once it's at pressure. I followed the recipe's instructions to brown and cook the beef separately, set it aside, and then cook the potatoes and carrots. After cooking the beef, there wasn't a whole lot of 'gravy' left and I wasn't sure if I should add some more liquid during the vegetable cooking phase. I wound up with overcooked (mushy) potatoes and carrots and a scorched pan. I think the scorching was due to the tomato paste in the recipe. And I guess the veggies just cooked too long, even though I followed the timeline and used the quick release method. This was one instance where I felt like I spent a lot more time using the pressure cooker than I would have I'd followed a traditional, stovetop recipe. Any hints, suggestions, or other advice?
I saw several recipes online that just called for putting everything into the cooker at one time and cooking it all together - this seems easier, but also as if it might lead to overcooking of certain items (like veggies). Any thoughts on one technique over the other?
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#22
Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:39 AM
#23
Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:45 AM
We cook flan in a pressure cooker. My mother used to use the tin cans where the danish cookies used to be sold in the drug stores during the holiday season [you know the kind?]. It is highly effective. I will get the recipe and share as soon as she arrives from the island today.I completely forgot another use for the pressure cooker - flan. Apparently, it is very common, especially in places where people need to conserve fuel for stoves. But still want flan. This is one I haven't tried yet, but I plan to soon.
#24
Posted 11 January 2010 - 08:46 AM
Sorry I didn't see this earlier. The finished product from this method is indistinguishable from risotto cooked with gradual additions of stock. Some friends and I did side by side blind tastings and the only difference is that the rice in the pressure cooker risotto is more evenly cooked. The dish is creamy and smooth, not dry like a pilaf. I suppose it depends on whether you are a "journey of risotto" or "destination of risotto" kind of person. If I'm in a hurry, it's all about the destination.I am not really clear as to why this is not considered a pilaf, rather than risotto. Other than the addition and evaporation of a small amount of wine before adding all of the liquid, it proceeds like a pilaf (saute onion and rice in oil, add liquid, cover and cook until all of the liquid has been absorbed). The whole point of a risotto is that the liquid is added in small increments and the rice is frequently stirred as it slowly absorbs the small additions of liquid. I suppose, if you really stretched it, it could be considered a pilaf/risotto hybrid: pilatto or risolaf anyone?
There has to be a certain amount of water in there to make steam - it's the buildup of steam that makes the pressure. I think you probably didn't have enough liquid for it to work well. A rule of thumb for preventing mushiness is cut the regular cooking time to one-third. So if you think that it would take fifteen minutes to cook the vegetables, go for five with a quick release. If you are worried, go for three then finish the dish with the cover loosely over the top like you would in a regular pot. I've done that and it's worked out OK.I'm back, looking for some more input from the seasoned pressure cooker pros. So far, I've had success with beans and a great Mexican pork stew. My attempt at beef stew (using the recipe from Lorna Sass' "The Pressured Cook") was a big flop.
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I'm still getting familiar with the cooker and knowing what temperature to adjust the burner to once it's at pressure. I followed the recipe's instructions to brown and cook the beef separately, set it aside, and then cook the potatoes and carrots. After cooking the beef, there wasn't a whole lot of 'gravy' left and I wasn't sure if I should add some more liquid during the vegetable cooking phase. I wound up with overcooked (mushy) potatoes and carrots and a scorched pan. I think the scorching was due to the tomato paste in the recipe. And I guess the veggies just cooked too long, even though I followed the timeline and used the quick release method. This was one instance where I felt like I spent a lot more time using the pressure cooker than I would have I'd followed a traditional, stovetop recipe. Any hints, suggestions, or other advice?
I saw several recipes online that just called for putting everything into the cooker at one time and cooking it all together - this seems easier, but also as if it might lead to overcooking of certain items (like veggies). Any thoughts on one technique over the other?
#25
Posted 10 March 2010 - 10:34 PM
Lorna Sass' "Great Vegetarian Cooking Under Pressure" has continued to be a good resource. Tonight I made Thai Chickpeas - delicious and very simple, with just a handful of ingredients creating great flavor. Red Beans and Rice for Oscar night, hummus for the Super Bowl made from pressure cooker chickpeas... Butternut squash risotto was okay, but made before I got the timing/temperature down, so I need to give that another shot. Other dishes I've tried include chickpea stew with sweet onions; a first attempt at the reason I got the thing in the first place "Poulet Dakar" - or Yassa Poulet/Poulet Yassa; chana masala; the Mexican pork stew mentioned above (yes, chickpeas have been featured regularly).
I now need to give some meat dishes a try, but I've really been enjoying the meat-free ones!
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#26
Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:17 AM
I've done it before, but I've always done the veggies separate. This time I think I'll open the pressure cooker about 5 minutes early, add the veggies, and cook the last 5 all together. I think 5 minutes would be long enough... (And, yeah, the veggies would be softer this way, but, well, I like veggies like that. That's why I love stew as well. Mmm...)
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#27
Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:05 AM
Is there some trick to this? For me, opening the pressure cooker either involves waiting 15 minutes for the pressure to die down or running cold water over it for five minutes to do the same. Either way, the food inside continues to cook. Anyone have a faster way?This time I think I'll open the pressure cooker about 5 minutes early, add the veggies, and cook the last 5 all together.)
#28
Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:52 AM
With a quick release, it shouldn't take five minutes of cold water. It helps to rotate the pot so that the cold water runs down over the sides in addition to the lid of the pot. I do this all the time and the pressure valve releases in just a few seconds. If you are using warm water or running it over just the lid, it will take much longer.Is there some trick to this? For me, opening the pressure cooker either involves waiting 15 minutes for the pressure to die down or running cold water over it for five minutes to do the same. Either way, the food inside continues to cook. Anyone have a faster way?
#29
Posted 11 March 2010 - 12:03 PM
I usually just release the pressure with the valve on top (after turning off the flame). Seems to be just as fast as the cold water technique for me, especially when you take into account the "drag full PC over to sink" time.Is there some trick to this? For me, opening the pressure cooker either involves waiting 15 minutes for the pressure to die down or running cold water over it for five minutes to do the same. Either way, the food inside continues to cook. Anyone have a faster way?
Certified Nerd and Oh So Boring...
#30
Posted 13 July 2010 - 06:20 PM
#31
Posted 12 January 2011 - 04:54 PM
For those wondering about rice cookers on the rice cooker thread, if you have a pressure cooker, I'd say don't bother with a rice cooker.
Jackie B.
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Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#32
Posted 30 January 2011 - 02:42 PM
Can you post your recipe?My new favorite use for the pressure cooker: making rice. I've never been a fan of what comes out of the rice cooker. I was perfectly happy with the stove-top method I've used since I was helping to make dinner as a kid - a method which was validated and slightly improved upon by using Bittman's method from the "How to Cook Everything" app. Now I have rice in 4 minutes (plus the time to come to pressure and release pressure) - love it!
For those wondering about rice cookers on the rice cooker thread, if you have a pressure cooker, I'd say don't bother with a rice cooker.
#33
Posted 30 January 2011 - 04:36 PM
Sure - it's just a 1:1.5 ration (grain:water). Bring to high pressure and cook for 4 minutes, release pressure using the natural release method, remove the lid and fluff with a fork.Can you post your recipe?
I've been using 2 cups of jasmine rice to 3 cups water and it's turned out perfect every time.
Miss Vickie's website has times/ratios for other types of rice (and lots of other things). I have not used the Pan in Pot method she describes - and don't see any reason to use it.
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#34
Posted 09 February 2011 - 04:30 PM
My main question is whether or not to cook the meat alone ahead of time, then do the beans, and add the meat in at the end. Or should I just cook it all together - which is obviously the fastest option. No matter what, I'm going to brown the roast first.
I've found two sort of similar recipes - one with pork neck bones that get cooked separately with the meat deboned, chopped, and put back in to the (separately cooked) beans. The other (for lamb shanks) cooks everything together.
Your thoughts?
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#35
Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:24 PM
#36
Posted 09 February 2011 - 08:08 PM
I have only cooked two* things in my pressure cooker so far, navy bean soup, 40 minutes (just right), and collards, 7 minutes (too long).Hey pressure cooker peeps, I'm looking for your help on process for an improvised navy bean and lamb neck roast soup/stew. The neck roast is pretty small - and I soaked a whole pound of beans, which is probably twice the typical recipe amount of 1 cup - oops. More leftovers!
My main question is whether or not to cook the meat alone ahead of time, then do the beans, and add the meat in at the end. Or should I just cook it all together - which is obviously the fastest option. No matter what, I'm going to brown the roast first.
I've found two sort of similar recipes - one with pork neck bones that get cooked separately with the meat deboned, chopped, and put back in to the (separately cooked) beans. The other (for lamb shanks) cooks everything together.
Your thoughts?
My observation is that the flavors need to be layered in advance, e.g., browning meat, onions, other veg.
No idea how long a neck would take. So, I would do separately and combine, browning the meat and perhaps cooking it based on recipes in specialized pressure cooker cookbooks, which seem to be right on the money so far.
*Well, I did have one disastrous experience with black chickpeas but they were probably old. Never got soft. But black chickpeas have a reputation for this.
#37
Posted 10 February 2011 - 03:14 PM
Ilaine, if you haven't checked them out, I really like Lorna Sass's PC cookbooks.. Her recipes do a great job of combining flavors with tasty results.
* I thought this was odd, as they'd had a good 10 hour soak and are smaller with a very short cooking time on their own (4 minutes or so).
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#38
Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:19 PM
Wow - the pressure cooker makes amazing risotto (with a little help from me). Last night I made the Roasted Mushroom Risotto with Parsley from Jamie Oliver's "Jamie's Italy" cookbook. It uses a risotto bianco as the base, which I made following the proportions in the recipe. Cooked the soffrito as instructed, added the rice, and then the wine and stock and brought it up to pressure. While that was going on, sauteed and then roasted the wild mushrooms (a great mix from the farmer's market). Mushrooms were done just as the PC cooking time (5 minutes at high pressure) was finished. The risotto looked a little soupy to me when I took the lid off the cooker, but with a stir and the finishing butter, cheese, and parsley mixed in, it was perfect. Stirred in about 2/3 of the mushrooms, roughly chopped, and used the rest to top the individual servings. Very rich, but very tasty and a great meat-free main course.I love my pressure cooker, and I use it mainly for risotto and to cook dried beans on a whim.
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#39
Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:49 PM
Isn't it fantastic? Once you get the timing figured out for your machine, it's so nice to make it this way.Wow - the pressure cooker makes amazing risotto (with a little help from me).
#40
Posted 14 February 2011 - 06:39 PM
#41
Posted 16 November 2011 - 01:05 PM
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#42
Posted 05 December 2011 - 04:22 PM
One question for the PC experts out there: the recipe didn't call for it, but I decided to brown the ribs first. It took a bit of effort to separate the meat from the gristle after the ribs had cooked as directed. Did that sear make the meat 'stick together' more than it would have if I just threw the uncooked meat in the cooker? The recipe was good enough that I don't mind making it again to test that theory, but maybe one of you has some insight
Jackie B.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Wonka/Dahl/O'Shaughnessy
#43
Posted 14 December 2011 - 04:05 PM
I had four cans of sweetened condensed milk in the pantry and didn't want to pay nearly four bucks for a can of dulce de leche, so I tried the pressure cooker method. I emptied most of one can into a mason jar because I'm impatient and didn't want to wait to see if it worked.
I put the can and jar on a rack, filled the pot with water to cover by one centimeter, and ran it for 20 minutes at pressure with a slow release. Perfect.
Edited to mention that you are not supposed to open the cans until they are completely cooled.
#44
Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:10 PM
* I thought this was odd, as they'd had a good 10 hour soak and are smaller with a very short cooking time on their own (4 minutes or so).
I'm a little late in commenting. I don't have a pressure cooker, so I don't usually read this thread. Acidic foods, including tomatoes, can retard the cooking of dried beans. I discovered this once when I was trying to finish a bean dish on a deadline and added tomatoes at the beginning.
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