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there's actually two absinthe products with legal levels of thujone(less than 10mg/liter) already available in the US market. They are distilled using grand wormwood; I have yet to try either brand so I cannot attest to their quality. LUCID is distilled in France at the combier distillery(see below, ol ironstomach was right. I originally put that lucid was part of the jade line, I was misinformed), created by Ted Breaux(a native of New Orleans) a former Absinthe enthusiast/collector. It's already available in several bars/restaurants in NYC and a few in Chicago. The other is Kubler from Switzerland, it was the first legally available in the states because the company negotiated a deal with US customs.

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I could be mistaken, but I was under the impression that Lucid was clearly not part of Breaux's Jade line. He formulated Lucid, and it's produced on the same stills at Combier, but Breaux himself does not distill Lucid. My earlier impression here.

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I finally got my hands on a bottle of LUCID. I have to agree with ol'ironstomach: it's like pastis(it actually reminds me more of cassanis more than Ricard or Pernod) with a little....something sort of grappaish. I can't identify it; it's definitely something I don't care for. I've had two servings(1.5 oz) and I'm not sure I'll keep drinking. It's hit me pretty hard already.

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I finally got my hands on a bottle of LUCID. I have to agree with ol'ironstomach: it's like pastis(it actually reminds me more of cassanis more than Ricard or Pernod) with a little....something sort of grappaish. I can't identify it; it's definitely something I don't care for. I've had two servings(1.5 oz) and I'm not sure I'll keep drinking. It's hit me pretty hard already.

This is a gray area for many of us, I'm sure.

Isn't pastis simply a lower-proof answer to absinthe? Didn't the French create pastis (i.e. Pernod and Ricard) to have less alcohol, more sugar and an anise seed base to fill the void left by the banning of absinthe?

(By the way, Lucid absinthe will be available from a D.C. liquor wholesaler sometime this month)

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That's right. And they actually ended up overfilling the void. The French live and die by pastis. Theres the "yard" and the old joke about the greatest job in France: the mailman because he stops at every house on his route to have a glass of pastis.

I think the big difference in LUCID and Pastis is the foundation. Lucid seems to be missing the bulk of anise and Ceylon spices/roots that its pastis cousins have. I'll say it makes up for it in it's MikeTysonPunchOutiness.

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Supposedly, pastis was once very much closer to absinthe than it is today, having since developed into a style of its own. And regardless of which side you take on Pernod vs. Ricard, I'm here to tell you that both of them are paint stripper compared to the delicate complexity of Henri Bardouin "grand cru" pastis. It's an utterly gorgeous sip on a warm summer night. Thanks again to the Parrott-head for turning me on to that brand during one of our Astor shopping binges. Incidentally, the same group also distills "Absente" - might that more closely resemble an early pastis?

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I finally got my hands on a bottle of LUCID. I have to agree with ol'ironstomach: it's like pastis(it actually reminds me more of cassanis more than Ricard or Pernod) with a little....something sort of grappaish. I can't identify it; it's definitely something I don't care for. I've had two servings(1.5 oz) and I'm not sure I'll keep drinking. It's hit me pretty hard already.

Could it be the 124° and the warning "CAUTION: CONTENTS HIGHLY FLAMMABLE"?

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Alright, I'll bite: where in this area can we find it?
Not sure. I buy mine in New York. Although I did buy a bottle from Potomac Wines & Spirits on M St. about 4 years ago.

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Could it be the 124° and the warning "CAUTION: CONTENTS HIGHLY FLAMMABLE"?
No doubt. It's anise flavored jet fuel.
Alright, I'll bite: where in this area can we find it?
It hasn't hit DC yet. I know that two or three distributors in this area have bites on some different brands for the future.

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No doubt. It's anise flavored jet fuel.

It hasn't hit DC yet. I know that two or three distributors in this area have bites on some different brands for the future.

The Lucid website says Republic National Distributing Company has it.

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Incidentally, the same group also distills "Absente" - might that more closely resemble an early pastis?
The Virginia ABC nearest us (Sterling-haven't seen it at any others) has been stocking Absente for a while, and it's pretty good - nice enough to drink straight, and mixes very well, which is essential for the Corpse Reviver #2. They also include a drip spoon with each bottle, which is a nice touch - we've given a couple of bottles as gifts because of it.

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The Lucid website says Republic National Distributing Company has it.
The product in question for this side-discussion is not Lucid but Henri Bardouin.

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The Lucid website says Republic National Distributing Company has it.

I talked with TC about it and he's working on getting it here. It seems more promising that the hangar one absinthe will be available sooner.

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Wow, just read this and it blows my mind. Spent a lot of time in Amsterdam and if you are not experienced at drinking the "Green Fairy" you can overdo it. I hope bartenders remember that a few can ruin it for the masses and they keep people from getting utterly wasted.

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Good news: Kübler, from Switzerland, will soon be available in D.C. and Virginia (if their website is correct) and it should already be available in Maryland.

Info here: http://www.kublerabsinthe.com/

The better news is, it isn't likely to be as expensive as I thought. It might even cost less than Lucid.

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The bottle I bought in New Orleans a couple of years ago is called ABSENTE (Absinthe Refined) from Distilleries et Domaines de Provence (France) and inported by Crillion Importers (Paramus, NJ). The process is call petite absinthe and is barrelled in southern wornwood. Anyone know anything about this? It was like 46 bucks ans is 110 proof. It seems like this may be fake stuff

http://www.wormwoodsociety.org/index.php?o...9&Itemid=85

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