I do agree on the vintages, thats why I never mentioned vintages. my point was to the content of the list, new world and old world PRODUCERS, and varietals not vintages. As far as Condrieu beating Cali, for sure, thats why I mentioned that wines can be better in the old world. Prosecco to most is pedestrian, but sparkling wines by the glass dont have to be, Proof pours Krug... not too pedestrian.