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I joined Virgin America's frequent flier program today, but I don't seem to be a member of the "Virgin Atlantic Flying Club." Would someone please let me know if these are one-and-the-same, or two separate programs? (Or, for that matter, two separate airlines?) I assumed they were the same thing, but maybe one's a subsidiary of the other, or something like that. Do you need to register for both programs? (And in case you're wondering why I ask, the Chase Sapphire Reserve Visa allows cardholders to transfer points to the Virgin Atlantic Flying Club, which I don't seem to be a member of, despite joining the Virgin America program.) You all have allowed this community to become a pretty awesome frequent-flyer and credit card-point resource - thepointsguy.com is great, but you can't control what he writes; here, we have the power of experienced travelers, and the kindness of people who care about others - it's a great combo. (In case you haven't been able to tell - as I'm growing older, and Matt's away at school, I'm starting to develop a healthy dose of wanderlust, despite my injury - I refuse to let it keep me down. Or, at least I'm trying.) Thanks in advance, Rocks