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johnb:  Since I am someone who wears her politics on her sleeve, the people who know me could answer your hypothetical in a nanosecond. For me, there wouldn't be a choice--because of reasons Rocks wouldn't appreciate being described here.

I suppose what I find so annoying about the whole Donna mess is that he has access to some of the most experienced PR people on the planet right in his own backyard. There is even a popular TV show about this, Scandal. If he has sought out any advice from those quarters, it isn't apparent. There seems to have been zero contrition from him. Heartfelt apologies go a long way, accompanied by real acts of contrition. That's really the only way I know of to resurrect one's reputation. Stonewalling never seems to work out the way some people hope it will.

Rest assured, however, that I am not sitting at home sticking pins in a Voodoo doll that resembles neither Donna nor any of his fans. Because i insist on my right to spend my money the way I want and speak my mind, I have to respect the rights of others to do likewise--even if I disagree with their choices or opinions.

I wish I could find that "beating a dead horse" emoticon that Nadya posted here years ago. It's probably about time it was taken out of storage.

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Why is it OK to cut some slack for Bruner-Yang based on youth and alcohol, but not to do the same for Donna who grew up in Italy, a place with a well-known culture of tax avoidance and even perhaps spotty employee-employer relations?

Because this isn't Italy, and last time I checked, habitually ripping off your employees, vendors, and the government - for 15+years-  isn't a quaint part of the American way. I have heard of Mr. Bruner-Yang's transgressions exactly once. ONCE.

Let me be even more clear. I believe Roberto Donna to be an extraordinary talent. I believe he has not only a right to work, in order to make a living and sustain his family, but an obligation to work, in order to pay back those to which he is indebted.  I will be happy to even assist him in this endeavor with my patronage. I just need to know that people are getting paid back.

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Let me be even more clear. I believe Roberto Donna to be an extraordinary talent. I believe he has not only a right to work, in order to make a living and sustain his family, but an obligation to work, in order to pay back those to which he is indebted.  I will be happy to even assist him in this endeavor with my patronage. I just need to know that people are getting paid back.

To carry this a step further: if people knew how many restaurant employees had felony arrest records, they'd think twice about their current stances. This is not a pro- or con- statement; it's just ... a statement.

Barbara didn't want to talk about her politics - neither do I mine. But I'm the type of person who may pack it all in one day, and spend the rest of my life helping people out who need to live a better quality of life in prison. Call me a softie, but I think when a person is at their lowest, that's when they need the most help, and that tugs on my heartstrings.

In essence, I may just give up the rest of my life making the scum of the earth happier. Wherever help is most needed, that's where I want to spend my time, be it in South Sudan, a prison in Mississippi, or unwinding a Guinea worm.

Or maybe I'll make a few million dollars from this community and give it all away to those causes. That's probably the smartest and most efficient thing I could do.

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This puts me in mind of a related issue, that of the deeds and personalities of creative people as distinct from their works. Thomas Malory, author of Le Morte d'Arthur, one of the early masterpieces of English literature, was apparently a serial rapist and murderer. The great French troubadour Franí§ois Villon was certainly a thief and possibly a murderer. The brilliant Italian Renaissance composer and lutenist Carlo Gesualdo was guilty of  the appallingly brutal murders of his wife and her lover, and possibly also of his own infant son whose paternity he doubted. Lewis Carroll coaxed little girls out of their clothes so he could photograph them naked. Picasso treated women like shit. From the evidence of the documentary Don't Look Back, Bob Dylan is an asshole, or at least he was in 1965. Of all of these, we can currently offer commercial support only to Dylan. Shouldn't we?

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Watched any Woody Allen movies lately? Or any NFL games? We all give our money/time/props to people and organizations all the time that may well not merit it--and knowingly. We all find ways to rationalize it or to live with denial. I doubt many of us act of total ignorance in those sorts of decisions. But at the same time, withholding our money/time/support doesn't necessarily mean doing justice either; it may well just be self-righteousness. Other peoples' ethics seem black and white but I privilege nuance for my own. I'm guilty both ways, so I guess I tend to lean toward mercy and hope that is ultimately well placed.

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Allow me a small apology/clarification.  In my previous post, when I posited "you" being a liberal in my hypothetical, I meant you in the everyman sense, not Barbara herself.  I should have used "one", not "you," which would have been a better expression of what I was trying to say.  BTAIM, the discussion has been thought-provoking.

Here is a little personal foray into this dilemma.  I trade around my IRA in the stock market and have been in and out of Las Vegas Sands quite a bit over the years.  LVS is a casino operator mostly owned by Sheldon Adelson, a man whose politics I despise (big big Republican donor, sole supporter of Newt's white house bid in the last election cycle, mostly due to his hyper support for right wing Israeli political policies).  At the same time, Adelson wants very much to be the richest man in the world and is doing a pretty good job of it, so I figure, why not go along for the ride and get something for yours truly?.  He has made me some serious money for sure.  Of course, LVS's profits come mostly from super-rich Chinese guys who have made their money from poorly paid workers toiling in sweatshops to send stuff to Walmart and other US retailers.  So what should I think about all that?

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It's a minefield for sure. I think all of us try, in our own little ways, to live conscientiously. Sometimes that isn't possible for reasons of ignorance or because of the need to balance the various parts of our lives, or because we place different values on different things. To johnb's investment question, the answer is: that's the way the economic system works these days.  What's the alternative? Yes, there are mindful investments out there, but you would have to spend an inordinate amount of time investigating those possibilities. You also have to spend time to avoid the Madoffs of the world, too.

One could make money off of Adelson and then send campaign donations to the people he opposes. It won't be anything near what he will spend on such efforts--but, it's a start and every little bit helps.

I don't like the idea that the clothes I wear are made in sweatshops, but the alternatives are hard to find and I probably couldn't afford them anyway.  The days of finding clothes made in the (real) USA by union workers are long over. It's too bad, too. I grew up wearing such clothing and didn't have to spend and arm and a leg to do so. The textile factories in the South, which used to provide all our sheets and towels, are long gone, too.

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I didn't know there was a court case against Roberto Donna nor that he had purposefully stiffed employees and the state.  I'm newer to this forum.   I do know that some years ago a grad of the bar school I help operate got a job at Bebo through our placement efforts.  I recall stopping by while that grad was bartending there.  I didn't learn that employees were being stiffed.

From our vantage point at the school it occurs a lot.  We'll hear about it from grads.  The school doesn't have contracts with employers but we solicit leads for jobs from them, don't charge the employers and forward these to experienced and new grads.   Over many years I've heard of many employers in the food and beverage industry that stiff employees in the FOH.  It sucks.  The base salaries of FOH personnel are especially low via law, in recognition that they can earn significantly more through tips.  But that is very variable.  Slow days in a restaurant bar can kill potential tip income.  Not getting paid what is a meager base salary on top of that is especially problematic...especially for folks that don't make a lot of income.

IMHO its more troublesome if the establishment owner is sitting in a big expensive house surrounded by expensive baubles.

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Two years ago BMW hired several thousand people in the mid $19 an hour range for their  plant expansion near Spartanburg.  Several years before that they were paying around $30 an hour for the same job. Meanwhile in Munich I believe the same job paid around E45 an hour, approximately triple what was last paid in South Carolina.

BMW would not have built their plant in Spartanburg (nor Hyundai, Michelin and others) if they had to pay more.

Hershey's chocolate plant in Hershey. PA is two + million square feet.  Most Hershey chocolate is now made outside of the U. S.

JP Stevens has a similarly huge factory in Kannapolis.  Skeletal crew.

In the mid '90's we bought all of the furniture for our house from trips to Hickory and High Point, NC especially to true outlets (in factories) such as Henredon's in Spruce Pine, Century's near Hickory and Thomasville in Thomasville.  I believe almost all of this is made off shore now.

The Vancouver company that I represented for 23 years (and sold approximately $150 million dollars worth of equipment for) had a 100,000 square foot union factory in Kelowna, B. C.  And, factories in Bahrein, the Phillippines and China, all larger.  I brokered for Italian and German companies who both built factories in China and Eastern Europe.  The Swiss company I started with 30+ years ago used Russian and Eastern European steel.  I would not have sold $150 (much more counting all companies) million worth of equipment if a significant portion had been manufactured in a union shop in Western Canada.  Nor in factories in western European nations.

In all cases the administration and engineering offices remain along with several of the sales offices.

FWIW Frette is literally having its best sale of the year right now-the last day is TODAY:  http://www.frette.com/sale  Perhaps the most expensive linens on earth, made in Italy and 50-60% off.  No idea what they would cost if made in China but it wouldn't have the romance of "made in Italy."

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Actually, they're coming back, but it's all machines, hardly any people.  So that raises its own concerns. I suppose.

Yeah, it does. Just thinking about all these issues is depressing, to say the least. I find the downward-mobility trajectory we are on just horrifying. All of it in the quest to make higher profits. Is it too early to start drinking?

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Yeah, it does. Just thinking about all these issues is depressing, to say the least. I find the downward-mobility trajectory we are on just horrifying. All of it in the quest to make higher profits. Is it too early to start drinking?

You are wrong when you say that "all of it in the quest to make higher profits."  In today's incredibly competitive environment it is to survive.  I come back to my point above:  I would not have sold a fraction of what I did if the various equipment I sold had been manufactured in a union plant in Western Canada or in Switzerland or Germany.  These companies went offshore because everyone else did.

I had friends in the Kelowna factory.  My wedding reception was in a factory in Wichita, Kansas.  I now passionately follow Bayern Munich because of good friends in Germany.  I didn't want to sell Chinese steel or Bahreinian fiberglass but I sold it.  If I hadn't I would have been out of business.

The factories I mentioned in Kelowna, Wichita. Monthey and West Germany remain in business but found market niches which were much more specialized.  They were able to keep employees.  But the volume of their work and the hiring of new employees took real hits.  A third, half of the rooms in the factories may be vacant. Ironically,they also remain open in part because they are subsidized by offshore manufacturing.

John's point about automation is well taken, too.  Assuming that a factory has the capital to purchase the equipment.

Again, going offshore might have once been "to make higher profits."  Today it is to survive.  I am extremely fortunate that I sold American made, Canadian made, German and Swiss made equipment when I did.  But during my 34 years it changed.  And today,  as I noted above, the level of wages in our American factories are proportionately much lower than they were a decade or two ago.

Having said this, nothing excuses what some companies like Apple, are responsible for elsewhere.  But that is another topic.

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Yeah, it does. Just thinking about all these issues is depressing, to say the least. I find the downward-mobility trajectory we are on just horrifying. All of it in the quest to make higher profits. Is it too early to start drinking?

One more thought, perhaps the most important of all.  I believe that most Americans have no idea of how much America has lost in stature to China and to several countries in the Middle East.  Having represented several international manufacturers and also having sat on the board of a large international trade association I believe that America no longer has the presence it once did.  I'm going far beyond manufacturing in saying this.  Thirty five years ago the United States was the priority of most manufacturers in most industries.  Today we are second.  At best.

It is not just that equipment is manufactured offshore.  Rather, that so many companies in so many industries now depend on elsewhere for their survival.  GM, Ford and others aren't just building plants in China to ship vehicles here.  They are building them there to sell them there.

The highly automated plant that BMW has built in SC is there because the cost of American labor is low.  Again, a third of Munich.  Perhaps a quarter of what once existed in Dearborn, Akron and Youngstown.  The American built BMW is going back overseas.  Even to China.  What is interesting is that when you sit in the room with Chinese manufacturers they will tell you they want Chinese made product and cars.  They really don't want a lot that is built here.  Part of this is to support their country and its growth; part is their image of what American manufacturing is today.

Just as we once thought of "made in Japan"...."made in Mexico"...."made in China" some others now return the perception.

I type this sitting in a chair made in Grand Rapids, MI with an adjacent night stand and triple dresser made in Spruce Pine, NC and, across the room, more pieces from Spruce Pine and Morganton, NC.  The lamps next to me and across the room were made in Holland, MI.

And I am pouring a glass of Virginia wine.

...Chinese now own LaGrange near Gainesville, Henredon is manufactured in the Phillippines, I believe Baker has a plant in China and LaBarge is still in HIgh Point but no idea of their current sources.

The '09 Linden Hardscrabble Red is absolutely delicious.  A superb bottle of wine that is an absolute bargain for the price.

The Chinese would be jealous.

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I would just add a note that the decline of the US as a manufacturing center and more generally as an economic superpower, and the declining living standard of US labor, is at least in part the result of deliberately adopted policies of successive US governments. But Edward Snowden's the traitor.

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The US hasn't been slipping so much as everybody else has gotten their acts together and have developed.  That was unavoidable, nor should it have been avoided.

The US is still a competitive manufacturer of things, but not simple things.  Complex things.  There is a lot of misunderstanding about that.

I recall back in the 70's how everyone thought Japan was taking over "high tech" because they had taken over manufacturing of VCR's.  The truth was that VCR's were simple devices.  The Japanese could do that cheap and fine.  Few people were aware of the truly high tech stuff the US was doing and doing well, partly because much of it was in the black world, e.g. places like the instrument bays of F-15's, and even then in buildings out at Ft. Meade.  We all now know that Japan's predominance in electronics manufacturing didn't really do them much good in the end. Manufacturing cheap stuff is not where the money is.

The other side of the coin is that, while the US has a tough time competing with low wage countries for mass produced  consumer-grade goods, it has significant strengths in other areas.  Look at the iPhone.  Apple sells it for $600.  People think of it as being a Chinese-made item.  Actually, IIUC the Chinese value-added in an iPhone is around $10, limited to the assembly.  About $180 is parts that came from other countries, some of it the US.  But the lion's share goes to Apple, for the soft stuff, the services, the intellectual content, that is wrapped up in it -- design, development, software, management, selling expense, and profit.  Apple makes still more from its ecology of apps and all the rest that goes with it, much of which is exported -- none of that gain goes to China.  Sometimes you have to look behind the numbers and see what's actually going on.

The US is a service exporter, not a manufacturers exporter.  Nobody can compete with the US for production of entertainment, and entertainment is a huge export area.  We do well with legal services, accounting/consulting, education, medical services and products, and a host of others.  Actually, in spite of all the manufacturers we import, were not for net energy imports the US trade balance would be doing fairly well.

One more thing.  All that money that we have been sending to China is dollars.  They are sitting with those dollars.  But in the end, they can't eat them -- to get something back for all they have sent to us, they have to eventually spend them, and that means they will have to buy things from the only place that can actually absorb net dollars, which is us.  Chinese businessmen can act superior all they want, but in the end that's what they have to do, unless they choose to effectively gift us all the stuff they have already sent over.  I recall a money and banking professor I had as an undergraduate economics major, who commented that nobody should worry about a balance of payment deficit, because if they are getting the gold, that means we are getting the goodies.  And that was in the gold days -- nowadays, they don't even get gold, just electronic blips.  I'm fine with sending them all the electronic blips they want.  They can keep them.

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The US hasn't been slipping so much as everybody else has gotten their acts together and have developed.  That was unavoidable, nor should it have been avoided.

The US is still a competitive manufacturer of things, but not simple things.  Complex things.  There is a lot of misunderstanding about that.

I recall back in the 70's how everyone thought Japan was taking over "high tech" because they had taken over manufacturing of VCR's.  The truth was that VCR's were simple devices.  The Japanese could do that cheap and fine.  Few people were aware of the truly high tech stuff the US was doing and doing well, partly because much of it was in the black world, e.g. places like the instrument bays of F-15's, and even then in buildings out at Ft. Meade.  We all now know that Japan's predominance in electronics manufacturing didn't really do them much good in the end. Manufacturing cheap stuff is not where the money is.

The other side of the coin is that, while the US has a tough time competing with low wage countries for mass produced  consumer-grade goods, it has significant strengths in other areas.  Look at the iPhone.  Apple sells it for $600.  People think of it as being a Chinese-made item.  Actually, IIUC the Chinese value-added in an iPhone is around $10, limited to the assembly.  About $180 is parts that came from other countries, some of it the US.  But the lion's share goes to Apple, for the soft stuff, the services, the intellectual content, that is wrapped up in it -- design, development, software, management, selling expense, and profit.  Apple makes still more from its ecology of apps and all the rest that goes with it, much of which is exported -- none of that gain goes to China.  Sometimes you have to look behind the numbers and see what's actually going on.

The US is a service exporter, not a manufacturers exporter.  Nobody can compete with the US for production of entertainment, and entertainment is a huge export area.  We do well with legal services, accounting/consulting, education, medical services and products, and a host of others.  Actually, in spite of all the manufacturers we import, were not for net energy imports the US trade balance would be doing fairly well.

One more thing.  All that money that we have been sending to China is dollars.  They are sitting with those dollars.  But in the end, they can't eat them -- to get something back for all they have sent to us, they have to eventually spend them, and that means they will have to buy things from the only place that can actually absorb net dollars, which is us.  Chinese businessmen can act superior all they want, but in the end that's what they have to do, unless they choose to effectively gift us all the stuff they have already sent over.  I recall a money and banking professor I had as an undergraduate economics major, who commented that nobody should worry about a balance of payment deficit, because if they are getting the gold, that means we are getting the goodies.  And that was in the gold days -- nowadays, they don't even get gold, just electronic blips.  I'm fine with sending them all the electronic blips they want.  They can keep them.

Debt.

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I don't see it being a "driver's seat" so much as a hand basket.

People typically think of our "debt" to China as being like one's relationship with the bank that holds one's mortgage.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  At this level, it just doesn't work that way.

Basically, we have them by the short hairs.  They sent us real stuff -- we sent them blips in return.  Now they have to convert the blips into something that's actually useful.  Easier said than done.

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I identified 3 graduates of the bar school hired by Bebo to be bartenders between 2006 and 2009.  As far as I recall we never got feedback that FOH employees were being stiffed or that these three were among employees who didn't get paid.   I do know we hear about it way too often from too many grads at too many places.

I did look at this website explaining pay requirements for tipped employees specifically in this case in Virginia.  Source  Its not a lot of money.  Its particularly disillusioning to hear that stiffing these oft times poorly paid people was something that occurred to multiple people.

Its an ugly recurring issue.

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I identified 3 graduates of the bar school hired by Bebo to be bartenders between 2006 and 2009.  As far as I recall we never got feedback that FOH employees were being stiffed or that these three were among employees who didn't get paid.   I do know we hear about it way too often from too many grads at too many places.

I did look at this website explaining pay requirements for tipped employees specifically in this case in Virginia.  Source  Its not a lot of money.  Its particularly disillusioning to hear that stiffing these oft times poorly paid people was something that occurred to multiple people.

Its an ugly recurring issue.

Even one missed paycheck - without a very clear, staff-wide explanation by the owner - is a huge alarm bell clanging.

I understand people are embarrassed to admit they may be cash-strapped at a given moment, but this trumps that.

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Because this isn't Italy, and last time I checked, habitually ripping off your employees, vendors, and the government - for 15+years-  isn't a quaint part of the American way. I have heard of Mr. Bruner-Yang's transgressions exactly once. ONCE.

Let me be even more clear. I believe Roberto Donna to be an extraordinary talent. I believe he has not only a right to work, in order to make a living and sustain his family, but an obligation to work, in order to pay back those to which he is indebted.  I will be happy to even assist him in this endeavor with my patronage. I just need to know that people are getting paid back.

Maybe the reason there's not more outrage with Bruner-yang is that its only happened once, or that people assume it was a drunk thing. hmm.

I'm finding this an interesting discussion for a couple of reasons--1) it points out how we each have our own trigger points and pet issues and react to them accordingly. for example, i'm sensitive about violence and particularly about violence against women, so acts of violence against women are almost literally unforgiveable, and i'm not willing to dismiss them because they were one time only or drunken. but, as the saying goes, your mileage may vary, and it seems to. 2) Don's comment later about how many staff members have records for felony assault is fascinating, and for me shows the dangers of trying to make political statements with spending--i do not have a personal bar on visiting Mr. Bruner-Yang's restaurants based on his behavior, but if i did, i could be doing that while inadvertently patronizing the restaurant of someone else who did something equally bad. the comment about many bar owners stiffing their staff was interesting for the same reason--it seems that though Mr. Donna may be the worst or most prominent offender, he's not the only one who holds back money owed his staff.Thus, the people who won't patronize Al Dente may in fact be giving their custom to someplace else that does the same thing. it's all very tricky. I'm not saying i don't try to vote with my dollar or that people shouldn't--i bet almost everyone does to some extent and i personally don't see movies by Polanski or Allen, and won't listen to RKelly--but this thread is highlighting how hard it is to do so, and how many people are publicly flogged (and financially penalized) for sins/practices when others that do similar things aren't.

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Maybe the reason there's not more outrage with Bruner-yang is that its only happened once, or that people assume it was a drunk thing. hmm.

I'm finding this an interesting discussion for a couple of reasons--1) it points out how we each have our own trigger points and pet issues and react to them accordingly. for example, i'm sensitive about violence and particularly about violence against women, so acts of violence against women are almost literally unforgiveable, and i'm not willing to dismiss them because they were one time only or drunken. but, as the saying goes, your mileage may vary, and it seems to. 2) Don's comment later about how many staff members have records for felony assault is fascinating, and for me shows the dangers of trying to make political statements with spending--i do not have a personal bar on visiting Mr. Bruner-Yang's restaurants based on his behavior, but if i did, i could be doing that while inadvertently patronizing the restaurant of someone else who did something equally bad. the comment about many bar owners stiffing their staff was interesting for the same reason--it seems that though Mr. Donna may be the worst or most prominent offender, he's not the only one who holds back money owed his staff.Thus, the people who won't patronize Al Dente may in fact be giving their custom to someplace else that does the same thing. it's all very tricky. I'm not saying i don't try to vote with my dollar or that people shouldn't--i bet almost everyone does to some extent and i personally don't see movies by Polanski or Allen, and won't listen to RKelly--but this thread is highlighting how hard it is to do so, and how many people are publicly flogged (and financially penalized) for sins/practices when others that do similar things aren't.

I'll go a step further: I know someone who knowingly (but not exclusively) hires people who have been in jail just to give them a second chance in life. He says they're often some of his best and hardest-working employees.

I wasn't necessarily talking about "felony assault" so much as plain old "felony," but yes, some of these are felony assaults.

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That's DC Central Kitchen's primary mission - a chance at a kitchen-related career for homeless and ex-cons.

I'll go a step further: I know someone who knowingly (but not exclusively) hires people who have been in jail just to give them a second chance in life. He says they're often some of his best and hardest-working employees.

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i personally don't see movies by Polanski or Allen, and won't listen to RKelly

But how far do you take this? Does the behavior by these people that you find abhorrent invalidate their work, or does it only prompt you to refrain from rewarding them financially by buying their products? Would you not watch "Chinatown" even if your watching it conferred no economic benefit on Mr. Polanski, as I imagine ordering it up from Netflix would not? That would seem to be allowing principle to trump good sense; "Chinatown" is among the best films ever made. And what of the examples I gave up above somewhere: Malory, Gesualdo, Lewis Carroll, and so forth? Do their crimes or sins or transgressions so taint their work that you'd have nothing to do with it, no matter how great it might be? What about Shakespeare and the second-best bed he bequeathed his wife, the mean bastard?

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From the perspective afforded to the bar school we have learned of many of these issues:   Some employers in the food and beverage (f&B) industry stiff their employees.  Some employers are abusive...and we have heard for years about employers who specifically have hit on women inappropriately.  Also the f & b industry is one that will hire people with criminal records.  In our long experience we are aware of some people w/ criminal records who started in the industry in lowly jobs and went up through the ranks.

Kudo's.  Those examples are testimony to the power and wonderfulness of giving people a second chance.  Of course not all such stories end up so happily.

From our perspective whenever we here about one type of abuse or not we simply don't spread the word of job availability to our grads.  I always wish we knew beforehand about the abusive folks...but we never do.

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The Donna thing bothers me more than the Burner-Yang thing because it is a repeated pattern to beat the system.  Now I have gone to his restaurants, eaten the food, and hoping the new non-owned by him enterprise would help pay back some of the wrongs through his settlement of parts of the case.  I am not a regular, and if he owned the restaurant himself I would perhaps think twice about going.

The Burner-Yang thing hits me much differently.  But working in a legal office, I see a lot of stuff happen and believe second chances and the ability to make yourself something better than what you are is a very important took to have.  Repeated patterns are what bother me.  Everyone can make mistakes, but a pattern of behavior hurting other people is not as acceptable to me.  I have silly rules myself, as well.  I listen to a lot of rap and hip-hop, but I hate Eminem and won't listen to it because of how brutally and openly he talks about violence against women.  Many other songs have other bad messages, it's just the way it is put out there that really bothers me.  There are other songs I won't listen to, as well.  I generally like to shop local and try to avoid walmart when I am up in GC, but I needed a crate the other day for the dog and they were the only place that had one... So I do what makes me feel good about what I do and avoid what I don't like.  I am sure in many ways I am very hypocritical, but isn't everyone.

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