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Hey all you DC council members reading this thread, I'm gonna be dining in VA with my tax dollars when this ban takes effect. And I'm not alone. :lol:

And I'm going to be dining and drinking a lot more often in the district when this ban takes effect. And I'm not alone.

Everybody wins!

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And I'm going to be dining and drinking a lot more often in the district when this ban takes effect. And I'm not alone.

Everybody wins!

Ditto.

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And I'm going to be dining and drinking a lot more often in the district when this ban takes effect. And I'm not alone.

Everybody wins!

I doubt that the ban will imact which jurisdictions I spend most of my dining $ in. I just won't have any reason to go to certain places, such as Shelley's, any more.

Edited by Jacques Gastreaux

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And I'm going to be dining and drinking a lot more often in the district when this ban takes effect. And I'm not alone.

Everybody wins!

'less I want a beer and a smoke at my local.

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'less I want a beer and a smoke at my local.

Right. I guess I meant to say *I* win. Po-tay-to/Po-tah-to. :)

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I enjoy sitting at a bar and chain smoking, while drinking. And when smoking is banned in these places, will I miss it? Probably. But I'll get over it, and so will just about everybody else. Hell, I'll probably even quit smoking. The ban IS coming, like it or not.

Edited by Roger Troutman

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I enjoy sitting at a bar and chain smoking, while drinking. And when smoking is banned in these places, will I miss it? Probably. But I'll get over it, and so will just about everybody else. Hell, I'll probably even quit smoking. The ban IS coming, like it or not.

I suspect that places with outdoor bars (a la the back porch on the Fairfax Coastal Flats) will start to do mad business after the ban goes into effect.

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Bring it on. Despite my love of an occasional smoke, I can't wait.

I spent 3 hours at a coffee house today. I had no idea anyone there was smoking until I left and realized that I reak. I'm tired of smelling of other people's smoke.

I promise to spend the money I save on dry cleaning and extra shampoo in DC restaurant or bar.

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I think it's unfortunate that an intolerant majority has to have their way in every single bar and restaurant in the city. Just leave us a couple of places per zip code and then you won't have to deal with us and you can feel superior as you stride past saying "not here, that's a smoker's bar."

Went out last night to Dino's. Didn't smoke. Had a decent meal. Had a good time.

Went out after to Aroma, 4P's and Frannie's. Smoked. Everyone was smoking. We all had a good time, there, too. Live and let live is a fine way to go.

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Live and let live IS a great philosophy for some aspects of life. IMO, smoke is not one of them.

Personally, I have asthma and smoke is a trigger which could put me out of commission. I hate bringing it up, though, so when I'm selective about smoky spots I speak about practical concerns like smelly hair, disgusting-smelling clothes and the way I just feel cloudy the next day. Aroma is one of my favorite spots because I think the space is cool, the music is often fun to listen to and I have a friend who works there, but it's gotten to the point that I just can't go there and that makes me sad.

IMO (again, that phrase), smoking is a habit or a hobby, not a right. If more businesses would be "brave" and choose to go non-smoking, I'd surely support them and smokers could have their fun at the other places, but it ain't gonna happen so I gladly support the ban.

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Anyone read the WP article this week about, what was it, the bar at the Mayflower going smoke free 7 months before the law goes in to effect?

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Anyone read the WP article this week about, what was it, the bar at the Mayflower going smoke free 7 months before the law goes in to effect?
I did. I remember in particular the person who said he/she wouldn't be going back there ever again. Yeah, right. :unsure: I give him/her ten minutes and they'll be ordering another drink.

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and now Philadelphia gets the ban on smoking. City Council voted last night to ban in Philly, with of cousre the special exepmtions for outdoor and certain nightclubs. Should start in 2007.

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Live and let live IS a great philosophy for some aspects of life. IMO, smoke is not one of them.

IMO (again, that phrase), smoking is a habit or a hobby, not a right. If more businesses would be "brave" and choose to go non-smoking, I'd surely support them and smokers could have their fun at the other places, but it ain't gonna happen so I gladly support the ban.

Wow. I am all in favor of smoking restrictions. But to say that smoking is "fun" shows an ignorance that is astounding. I don't know anybody who has smoked or does smoke who think that it is fun. Some people will say that they like it because they have come to accept the addiction.

Studies have shown, over and over, that something about tobacco makes it more addictive than other substances. Most people who smoke in America start when they are young & dumb, or at least feel invincible.

I am sorry you have asthma. I am actually allergic to tobacco the crop and had problems while in law school in a city so nice they named two cigarette brands after it (Winston & Salem). But your opinion is arrogant.

And ignorant as for most smokers smoking is an addiction the same way that heroin and cocaine are addictive. Ironically, studies indicate that mary jane is not addictive in the same way, that the smoking of mary jane is a hobby and habit. But cigarettes are not a habitual, they are an addiction.

The one thing I do think about the smoking ban is that it will make it less attractive for the young and invincible to start the habit.

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the smoking of mary jane is a hobby

Anyone know where I can find a hobby supply shop anywhere around town?

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Wow. I am all in favor of smoking restrictions. But to say that smoking is "fun" shows an ignorance that is astounding. I don't know anybody who has smoked or does smoke who think that it is fun. Some people will say that they like it because they have come to accept the addiction.

Really? Ever talk to a cigar smoker? I enjoy a good cigar every once in a while and think its fun to smoke one. And before you go off on my being addicted I don't think 6 a year qualifies.

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'less I want a beer and a smoke at my local.
There are always private clubs, which are exempt from the ban.

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But to say that smoking is "fun" shows an ignorance that is astounding. I don't know anybody who has smoked or does smoke who think that it is fun.

I do, so now you know one :unsure: But I'm a big ban fan.

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I do, so now you know one :unsure:

Me too. I enjoy the hell out of smoking a cig. But I'm all for the ban.

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I also loved smoking cigarettes, although I wouldn't refer to the enjoyment of smoking as "fun" (and I don't think that's what JLK meant back on Dec. 9th, 2005 anyway). If it weren't for the fact that the buggers will kill you, I'd still be smoking and enjoying it. But even before I quit (six years ago next month), I preferred non-smoking restaurants, and was in favor of a ban.

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I guess my response was to the use of the word "fun" as an activity. Technically, I know people who can smoke one while drinking and that would be something "fun" to do. However, have you ever looked at the people who huddle outside buildings smoking? Really, is that fun?

Cigars and cigarettes are two totally different nicotine delivery systems. In fact, cigars probably classify both as fun and a hobby.

Again, I think the smoking ban is a good thing. Not only do I look forward to not smelling like an ashtray after an evening out, I do think the activity will be less attractive to young people. Study after study has established that there is something too the fact that people who begin smoking before their 18th birthday are more likely to become addicted.

And if the manners comment was to me, I am sorry if my response offended someone BUT I feel for smokers. Both of my grandparents were smokers, it killed my Grandfather and it was an albatros to my Grandmother. I don't think either of them thought "Hey, this fun activity may one day kill me." However, I know the activity was no longer fun for my grandmother after my grandfather died. It was just that an albatros...

Didn't notice the date on the original post either.

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I vote for smoking being real real real fun. Love the hell out of it.

I wonder if we are going to see more outside additions to places because of the ban. That would be a good thing in my opinion

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Okay, I am sitting here thinking about my viscerol reaction to the concept of smoking as fun. I think I am wrong. Smoking can be fun just like eating good food, sex, drinking alcohol and other activities that impact endorphins and brain chemistry.

I think the problem is that smoking is nasty-- it smells really bad and allegedly kills people. I also think if there was no way to start smoking until you were a grown adult, nobody would smoke at least not American cigarettes...

So, is smoking fun... probably if you don't think about the addictive and health issues. I also KNOW it is fun for my friends who can smoke on occassion, socially while drinking.

But is it "fun" in the sense of the word "fun" probably not.

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