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On 5/4/2012 at 3:48 PM, hopsing said:

That is pretty good and I thought I might order a deep dish pie for dinner sometime. I don't remember the pizza being buttery at all.

veering way off topic...Naw, I don't remember it being buttery either - that's just the running joke of how the whole place seemed - that plopping wads of butter might be an option. The worst pizza, to me, is Pizza Hut, where I think the crust tastes like a big sponge dipped in butter. I really don't know how people eat through it - and as you might tell from my posts around this site, my food standards for what's acceptable are REALLY low.

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OK, I'm off topic now too. The worst pizza I've had recently was trying this new place called Paisano's in the strip mall at Bailey's Crosswords, near the Ruby Tuesdays. Absolutely awful and, yes, incredibly salty!!!

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veering way off topic...Naw, I don't remember it being buttery either - that's just the running joke of how the whole place seemed - that plopping wads of butter might be an option. The worst pizza, to me, is Pizza Hut, where I think the crust tastes like a big sponge dipped in butter. I really don't know how people eat through it - and as you might tell from my posts around this site, my food standards for what's acceptable are REALLY low.

ooh, new topic time! Worst pizza in the DC area might be Potomac Pizza (though I've never been to CiCi's so am not sure).

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ooh, new topic time! Worst pizza in the DC area might be Potomac Pizza (though I've never been to CiCi's so am not sure).

CiCi's is waaaaay worse than Potomac Pizza. Because of school parties I am occasionally forced to Potomac Pizza (which is still better than Papa John's, Dominos, Pizza Hut etc.) but CiCis is the absolute bottom of the barrel, which is why their all-you-can-eat is so cheap.

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[Can't say I'm thrilled with this topic, but I don't know where else to put these posts.]

Is there anything truly worse than gray-colored pizza (be it a jumbo slice, convenience store, etc.)? Elementary school cafeteria and bowling alley pizza is genuinely bad as well, bowling alleys may be the worst of all.

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I have to nominate Zio's on Shady Grove Road in Gaithersburg. We got carryout pizza from there a few years ago when we were living nearby in King Farm. By far, the WORST pizza ever! This was the first time we ever threw pizza out, and that includes numerous visits to Pizza Hut when the kids were little.

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Armand's has gotta be in the list.

I agree on Armand's because it's guilty of calling its stuff Chicago pizza and concocting a fable that they figured out the ingredients of Chicago style by dumpster diving (and if they did, they must have dived into the wrong dumpsters!). Armand's doesn't come close to the good stuff in Chicago.

Uno's goes with Armand's into the docket charged with defaming Chicago pan pizza because the Boston corporation that bought Uno's from Ike Sewell's widow ruined it (what a genius move .... pay big bucks for a recipe they wrecked). The only exceptions are the original Uno and Due in Chicago, which they allowed to keep making them following the original methods.

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When I was in high school I had a good friend who went to A. U. He and I and several others would go to Maggie's on Wisconsin Avenue. This was in the mid '60's, a number of years before Armand's opened (eventually) next door. Pizza was fifty cents a pie. Not a slice. But a pie. We would order a mug of beer and when the waittress tried to take it away, ask her to leave it on the table. The idea was to build up a wall of mugs to surround the pizza when it was served.

We also thought that as beer drinking Men (OK, I was the youngest at 17) girls coming in would be impressed at our virility and would want to sit next to us. Also (in our innebriated stupor) even go out with us.

Maggie's had terrible pizza. It tasted like it cost: fifty cents. But all of the beer we drank and all of the mugs we piled up on our table made it taste better.

To this day I never had a date with a girl who walked in while we were drinking. Almost a half century later (!) it was lousy pizza. So were our efforts at meeting women...

Must be why I drink wine today.

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[Can't say I'm thrilled with this topic, but I don't know where else to put these posts.]

Is there anything truly worse than gray-colored pizza (be it a jumbo slice, convenience store, etc.)? Elementary school cafeteria and bowling alley pizza is genuinely bad as well, bowling alleys may be the worst of all.

A) I didnt intend a new thread, but sometimes knowing what to avoid is as important as knowing which way to turn.

B ) Growing up I'd occasionally go see my uncle play in bowling leagues in alleys in north Jersey. Of course there's now way to confirm this now, 35 years later, but the pizza seemed ok. But I think bad pizza is against the law in those parts.

C) that dried, grey slice in the 7-11 glass case is probably rock bottom. But sometimes rock bottom is where one finds oneself.

D) Maggie's served something other than beer? :)

E) chuck e cheese holds a special place, simply because the setting is so painful. I like amusement parks, kids, arcade games and all that but just can't hang with the chuckster

F) concur with DanielK. Potomac pizza may have actually improved recently, and still isn't very good, but seems better than Cicis.

G) Zios, back in the day, used to be sort of cutting edge in pizza for those parts. I'd never heard of pineapple or white pizza before Zios. They'd pack the place on weekends and it was a special exotic treat for me and my siblings. I don't know where/how they went wrong.

H) Grotto's in Dewey, DE gets an honorable mention simply because I don't think I've ever actually fully digested it - it always found its way back up.

I did the math last weekend and have 10 places selling pizza within 1 mile of my house. Some are good, none are great.

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A) I didnt intend a new thread, but sometimes knowing what to avoid is as important as knowing which way to turn.

B ) Growing up I'd occasionally go see my uncle play in bowling leagues in alleys in north Jersey. Of course there's now way to confirm this now, 35 years later, but the pizza seemed ok. But I think bad pizza is against the law in those parts.

C) that dried, grey slice in the 7-11 glass case is probably rock bottom. But sometimes rock bottom is where one finds oneself.

D) Maggie's served something other than beer? :)

E) chuck e cheese holds a special place, simply because the setting is so painful. I like amusement parks, kids, arcade games and all that but just can't hang with the chuckster

F) concur with DanielK. Potomac pizza may have actually improved recently, and still isn't very good, but seems better than Cicis.

G) Zios, back in the day, used to be sort of cutting edge in pizza for those parts. I'd never heard of pineapple or white pizza before Zios. They'd pack the place on weekends and it was a special exotic treat for me and my siblings. I don't know where/how they went wrong.

H) Grotto's in Dewey, DE gets an honorable mention simply because I don't think I've ever actually fully digested it - it always found its way back up.

I did the math last weekend and have 10 places selling pizza within 1 mile of my house. Some are good, none are great.

Perhaps it's time to begin a conversation about best pizzas.

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Perhaps it's time to begin a conversation about best pizzas.

There are several topics about Pizzas here in Restaurants and Dining, and here in Shopping and Cooking.

The plain-titled topics "Pizzas," "Hamburgers," "Chili Crabs," all imply "Best Of" without actually saying so (this is the only topic that is highlighting the worst of something, and I don't really want to start a trend and become known as a "mean website" - it just goes against my grain, same reason I don't short stocks.) So go to those indices, and do a repeat-Find on "pizza" and you'll be aided in your quest for the best pizza thread of your choice. How about chiming in with some opinions?

Cheers,

Rocks

(And if someone wants to take over for the dearly departed leleboo, and volunteer to keep our indices up to date, please come forth!) There's lots of repetitive, grunt work to be done here (which is why I'm usually up at all hours of the night).

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Is it bad that even though I know it was probably awful, I have fond memories of pizza in high school? And sort of a craving to have it again?

I think it's due to the little cubes of pepperoni that were scattered on top...I'd get a slice of pepperoni and a slice of sausage, with smooshy flat grey more like hamburger sausage on top...put 'em together and wash them down with my milk (which I'd end up with two of, as my friend thought he was Italian (ends up his last name was Spanish) and would trade his milk for my grape juice so he could pretend it was wine)...

Now he's the guy who has quotes like "Nothing tastes as good as healthy feels" and claims he went to "Anthony Robbins Mastery University" on his Facebook page, so I don't really talk to him anymore...

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Is it bad that even though I know it was probably awful, I have fond memories of pizza in high school? And sort of a craving to have it again?

That's funny. I worked as a bank teller in college and the local cafeteria ladies would deposit cash with us. Once, I mentioned that I missed the rectangular pizza with the pepperoni bits and the large chocolate chip cookies. The sweet lunch lady actually brought some for me on the next pizza day. It wasn't as good as I remembered but it was a nice trip down memory lane.

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Is it bad that even though I know it was probably awful, I have fond memories of pizza in high school? And sort of a craving to have it again?

I think it's due to the little cubes of pepperoni that were scattered on top...I'd get a slice of pepperoni and a slice of sausage, with smooshy flat grey more like hamburger sausage on top...put 'em together and wash them down with my milk (which I'd end up with two of, as my friend thought he was Italian (ends up his last name was Spanish) and would trade his milk for my grape juice so he could pretend it was wine)...

Now he's the guy who has quotes like "Nothing tastes as good as healthy feels" and claims he went to "Anthony Robbins Mastery University" on his Facebook page, so I don't really talk to him anymore...

The funny thing about this post to me is that I can picture *exactly* the "smoothy, flat, gray, more-like hamburger sausage" - it's a thin wafer, almost shiny, the diameter of perhaps a half-dollar, and usually cut into quarters. Lots of fennel, if I recall.

My son informs me, by the way, that "Chef's Choice" is generally the worst food day of the month in Fairfax County Public schools, and the safest thing to get there, at least when he was in elementary and middle school, is Hummus Biteables.

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Of the higher end "gourmet" pizza crowd...Graffiato. Their pizza is not good. The crust is flaccid and flavorless. If Isabella was slinging this pizza in New Jersey he would be laughed out of the state.

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Of the higher end "gourmet" pizza crowd...Graffiato. Their pizza is not good. The crust is flaccid and flavorless. If Isabella was slinging this pizza in New Jersey he would be laughed out of the state.

I've had several pizzas at Graffiato, and none was as you describe. I prefer "New York" style pizza -- thin, slightly crisp crust, destined to be folded -- to the Neapolitan style that is de riguer. Graffiato's version is a little thicker that typical NY pizza, but I've liked the one's I've had there. Certainly none were "flaccid and flavorless" or anything I'd put in a thread titled "worst pizza." If you want to understand bad pizza, go to 7-11 right now and order a slice of plain cheese. If they offer to make a fresh one for you, say "no, I'll have the one in the case." That deserves the title "worst pizza." Graffiato's is just pizza you didn't happen to like, made in a restaurant owned by someone it's fashionable (in certain circles) to make fun of.

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There was nothing "slightly crisp" nor "New York-style" about the Graffito pizza Friday night.

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There was nothing "slightly crisp" nor "New York-style" about the Graffito pizza Friday night.

It's been a couple months since I've been in, but the 3 or 4 pizzas I've had at Graffiato were, as I (perhaps clumsily) tried to note, a bit thicker than the NY style I prefer. But the ones I've gotten did have some char and a slightly crisp bottom, so it sounds like you may have gotten a bad one. Regardless, was it really the "worst pizza" you've had? When I see that title, I think of the pizza I once had at the Chuck E. Cheese in Frederick, Maryland, while humoring a large pack of 7 year olds. That was some bad pizza. Ketchup on toasted Wonder with semi-melted string cheese would have been an improvement.

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It's been a couple months since I've been in, but the 3 or 4 pizzas I've had at Graffiato were, as I (perhaps clumsily) tried to note, a bit thicker than the NY style I prefer. But the ones I've gotten did have some char and a slightly crisp bottom, so it sounds like you may have gotten a bad one. Regardless, was it really the "worst pizza" you've had? When I see that title, I think of the pizza I once had at the Chuck E. Cheese in Frederick, Maryland, while humoring a large pack of 7 year olds. That was some bad pizza. Ketchup on toasted Wonder with semi-melted string cheese would have been an improvement.

Yeah, I deleted my own post for this very reason. My pizza at Graffiato was bad (one of two pizzas that I can remember not finishing or taking home in the past year; the other being Kavanagh's Pizza Pub), but ... it wasn't that bad where it should discussed next to Chuck E. Cheese, not even close.

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There is a reason why the statement is qualified with "Of the higher end "gourmet" pizza crowd..." ;)

I've been to Graffiato twice, once within a couple weeks of them opening and this past weekend, and I didn't notice much difference between the two experiences. I would say that the toppings at Graffiato are fine, can be good. The pizza dough/crust is flat out bad.

If we are going to talk worst pizza I've ever had...it is no doubt the pizza I had in Singapore...why I was eating pizza in Singapore, well, don't ask!

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If we are going to talk worst pizza I've ever had...it is no doubt the pizza I had in Singapore...why I was eating pizza in Singapore, well, don't ask!

Hope it wasn't the mayonnaise!

(Says the fan of unusual pizza varities in Asian countries...)

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Del Ray Pizzeria "Shroomin" pizza. Reconstitued mushrooms do not belong on pizza. Mmmm cardboard.

You know, there's a certain combination with reconstituted mushrooms and a flat style (not crumbly style) of sausage that really works pretty well, enough so that I'm sort of craving one right now. Where I've had it, I can't say, exactly.

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You know, there's a certain combination with reconstituted mushrooms and a flat style (not crumbly style) of sausage that really works pretty well, enough so that I'm sort of craving one right now. Where I've had it, I can't say, exactly.

In your case I am sure they were brought back to life properly, In my case, the past couple times tasted like they were trying to jump start a bull frog with a lightning bolt.

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