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The Baltimore Orioles (1954-) - American League, East Division - Once-Dynastic Franchise Ruined by Owner Peter Angelos

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3 hours ago, DonRocks said:

I understand the general concept of WAR (although not of fWAR - does that mean "field-adjusted?"). It means something like, 'How many wins a player is directly responsible for, in excess of an "average" ballplayer at the same position," is that correct?

No, it's value in excess of a replacement-level player (i.e., someone who's readily available in the minors/free agency).  Average players are not easy (read: impossible) to find off the street and actually quite valuable in the grand scheme of things.  Given the length of a baseball season and the prevalence of injuries, assembling a 40-man roster of as many league-average players or better as possible is of a GM's biggest challenges.

What is WAR?

P.S.  I was at Game 12 of the Orioles 0-21 streak in 1988 for a friend's birthday, a 4-1 loss to the Indians on April 17.

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The late 1960's/early 1970's Orioles are rated among the best baseball dynasties/ or mini dynasties ever with 1970 being their peak.  The team had hitting, pitching and fielding; but it was fielding where the team was remarkably outstanding;  Brooks Robinson at third, Mark Belanger at Shortstop, and Paul Blair in Center field each rank among the all time best fielders in baseball and at their positions.  They all played together.  There were other excellent fielders on those teams.  Simply they are often described as the best fielding baseball team of all time.

Which is somewhat deflating as the current Orioles team was just described in an article as...  

This Orioles Defense May Be the Worst We’ve Ever Seen

Even Machado, a stellar 3rd baseman, is evidently playing poorly at short, showing limited range per the article.  (I haven't watched enough to make note)  

That is quite a comedown.   All time greatest defensive team to an historically horrific defensive team.  Not much reason to drive up Rte 95 to watch the Orioles this season

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"Colby Rasmus Tells Orioles 'He'd Like To Go Home and Discontinue Playing,' Is Placed on Restricted List" by Jon Meoli on baltimoresun.com

On another note, isn't it just lousy that Eddie Murray didn't make the Orioles' "Franchise Four?" I'm not saying he should have; I'm just saying it's sad that he didn't. Man, when he was waving that bat with the bases loaded, and all of Camden Yards yelling, "Ed-die! Ed-die! Ed-die!" you almost knew he'd get a base hit.

On yet another note, who in the *hell* does the Hall of Fame plaques? They're consistently just plain awful - this one looks more like Captain Kangaroo than Eddie Murray.

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Q: How many times in the past 6 years have the Orioles made the playoffs?
A: 3

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2 hours ago, DonRocks said:

Q: How many times in the past 6 years have the Orioles made the playoffs?
A: 3

Yes.  They assembled a team with big hitters with lots of home runs and had a good run:  A surprising run because they hadn’t been to the playoffs  since the late 90’s (with Mussina)

This article describes the Orioles “braintrust” and who is in charge.

The article is as depressing as the season.  At the top ownership is at a loss.

Reflecting on their playoff run and going forward during that run....they lost Cruz to Seattle who gave a 34 year old a 4 year contract.  No other team would do that including the O’s.  A reasonable but disheartening ( for a fan) decision.  Cruz has been crushing homers for Seattle and is doing so again this year. Aaaaggghhh!!!!

They put the big big money into Chris Davis and are saddled with the worst player in baseball with more years on his contract.   Uggghhhh!  They messed up losing solid fan favorite Markakis and he is going to the All-Star game this year.    Ugggghhhh!!

I watched them too much in their heyday, got too attached and this season is the miserable crusher.

They need a complete system wide enema

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31 minutes ago, DaveO said:

They put the big big money into Chris Davis and are saddled with the worst player in baseball with more years on his contract.   Uggghhhh!  They messed up losing solid fan favorite Markakis and he is going to the All-Star game this year.    Ugggghhhh!!

How dare you talk poorly about the record-breaking Chris Davis.

"The Slugger Who Is on Track for the Worst Season in Major League History" by Jared Diamond on wsj.com

He's like Mark Belanger without the defense.

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The Manny sweepstakes are heating up.  Is he dealt before the ASG, leaving the O's without any representation?  Will they get anything but table scraps in return, or some actual building blocks?  Lots of teams could use his services as a rental.  MLB rumors today had the Yankees looking to acquire him and Britton.  If the O's play this right they might get some legit development talent.  That's a big IF!

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On 7/10/2018 at 8:18 PM, TedE said:

The Manny sweepstakes are heating up.  Is he dealt before the ASG, leaving the O's without any representation?  Will they get anything but table scraps in return, or some actual building blocks?  Lots of teams could use his services as a rental.  MLB rumors today had the Yankees looking to acquire him and Britton.  If the O's play this right they might get some legit development talent.  That's a big IF!

Bye bye Manny.  Bob Voyage.  The rumor

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The glass is half full perspective:

The tank and recover strategy is now in full mode.  BTW besides the teams described that used this method the early Nats also benefitted from it with high draft choices

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