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The new name of the new fine dining restaurant from Aaron Silverman will be Pineapple and Pearls:

"Rose's Luxury's Sister Restaurant Has a Name: 'Pineapple and Pearls'" by Jessica Sidman on washingtoncitypaper.com

Café/coffee/sandwich shop in the mornings and fine dining (with reservations accepted!) in the evenings. They're only going to be open 4 nights a week and no weekends.

A very bare bones website is up too:

PineappleAndPearls.com

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I was wondering if he was going to run into some kind of trademark or other legal problem with Elaine's, which had been the initial name reported. Perhaps that was the case.

According to the comments on Popville, there is a blog with the same name. The blog is plural on the pineapple, but so is the title of the web page for the restaurant. They wouldn't have been able to register the "pineapples..." domain because it was already registered to someone else :unsure:. Awk-ward?

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Actually, the name makes some sense given Silverman's commitment to hospitality and the fine-dining intention of the evening service: the pineapple symbolizes "welcome" and the "pearls" should be obvious. I think it's actually LESS hipsterish than Rose's Luxury.

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Actually, the name makes some sense given Silverman's commitment to hospitality and the fine-dining intention of the evening service: the pineapple symbolizes "welcome" and the "pearls" should be obvious. I think it's actually LESS hipsterish than Rose's Luxury.

Honestly, I don't use the term "hipster" -- I just think the ampersand naming trend is funny (and tired). I definitely get the pineapple part, I know that's a big symbol for Southern hospitality, which Silverman has a real connection to from his time in Charleston. And I think Rose's Luxury is a fantastic name - "hipster" as it may be. (Note: I named one of my daughter's Rose. Biased  ;) )

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Honestly, I don't use the term "hipster" -- I just think the ampersand naming trend is funny (and tired). I definitely get the pineapple part, I know that's a big symbol for Southern hospitality, which Silverman has a real connection to from his time in Charleston. And I think Rose's Luxury is a fantastic name - "hipster" as it may be. (Note: I named one of my daughter's Rose. Biased  ;) )

My wife has worked for one of the Williams Sonoma Brand stores for the greater part of a decade.  The Pineapple is a big part of their logo, and company lure.  They like to say that the pineapple is the "international symbol of hospitality" (for her 5th year anniversary they gave her this really nice insulated plated caraf, in the box was a card which explained the significance and how they wanted to encourage their staff to entertain), but this article claims that it is more of an American Colonial symbol (not necessarily just limited to the south: Pineapple Folklore.  I am not really sure why I am sharing all of this, but discussing the symbolism of the pineapple really gets me excited.

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I am not really sure why I am sharing all of this, but discussing the symbolism of the pineapple really gets me excited.

For "How I Met Your Mother" fans, it's also the answer to the mystery of the pineapple from Season 1's "Pineapple Incident" episode!

So looking forward to this opening, especially because Rose's roof reservations disappear in literally under ten seconds.

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The new name of the new fine dining restaurant from Aaron Silverman will be Pineapple and Pearls:

"Rose's Luxury's Sister Restaurant Has a Name: 'Pineapple and Pearls'" by Jessica Sidman on washingtoncitypaper.com

Café/coffee/sandwich shop in the mornings and fine dining (with reservations accepted!) in the evenings. They're only going to be open 4 nights a week and no weekends.

A very bare bones website is up too:

PineappleAndPearls.com

Yay and boo

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For "How I Met Your Mother" fans, it's also the answer to the mystery of the pineapple from Season 1's "Pineapple Incident" episode!

So looking forward to this opening, especially because Rose's roof reservations disappear in literally under ten seconds.

I love the reference to the pineapple incident episode :)   But as for reservations, maybe not 10 seconds, but I kind of wonder if they'll disappear in 20 seconds...We'll see...

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According to a Jan 31 twitter conversation on the Rose's Luxury site, Pineapple and Pearls anticipates opening the coffee/sandwich shop portion of the operation in about two weeks. By Presidents Day, perhaps?

TSchaad

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According to a Jan 31 twitter conversation on the Rose's Luxury site, Pineapple and Pearls anticipates opening the coffee/sandwich shop portion of the operation in about two weeks. By Presidents Day, perhaps?

TSchaad

Pineapples, Pearls, and Presidents.

What do you call a Jewish person who shows up at Rose's Luxury for the first time, only to find out there's a two-hour wait?

An oyster!

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The Washington Post reports that Aaron Silverman has hired Jeff Faile as beverage director of Rose's Luxury and Pineapple and Pearls.  Jeff Faile will be starting on Feb. 23.  The Washington Post also says "While Faile has been brought on with responsibility for both of Silverman's restaurants, he'll be spending much of his time for now focusing on Pineapple and Pearls."

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I stopped in for coffee this morning.  The left hand side of the posted menu is coffee options, with multiple types of milk.  The right hand side is food.  There are three sweet roll options, the first being "Pineapple and pearls."  There are also three savory options, one of which was egg something something hash and another was falafel. (I didn't have my phone with me or any way of taking notes, and my memory has seen better days.)  I recall the falafel being $10.  That's what I would have ordered had I been ordering food, so it what's I mostly recall from the menu.  There was also a single food item listed above the three types of rolls/breakfast sandwiches, which I sort of think might have been a sweet option.

The back area (where tables for dining will be) is still under construction, so there is a curtain closing it off.  It's all very elegant looking, black and white inside.  The woman I spoke to said that they will be adding another breakfast sandwich option and will have brisket rolls on Saturdays, starting at some point.

There's no sign outside, and the exterior is painted black.

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I stopped in for coffee this morning.  The left hand side of the posted menu is coffee options, with multiple types of milk.  The right hand side is food.  There are three sweet roll options, the first being "Pineapple and pearls."  There are also three savory options, one of which was egg something something hash and another was falafel. (I didn't have my phone with me or any way of taking notes, and my memory has seen better days.)  I recall the falafel being $10.  That's what I would have ordered had I been ordering food, so it what's I mostly recall from the menu.  There was also a single food item listed above the three types of rolls/breakfast sandwiches, which I sort of think might have been a sweet option.

The back area (where tables for dining will be) is still under construction, so there is a curtain closing it off.  It's all very elegant looking, black and white inside.  The woman I spoke to said that they will be adding another breakfast sandwich option and will have brisket rolls on Saturdays, starting at some point.

There's no sign outside, and the exterior is painted black.

[Pat, is the coffee bar a completely separate area than the fine-dining restaurant will be? You know what I'm getting at here: I'm thinking Pineapple and Pearls needs to be sliced into two threads - one for the coffee bar, the other for the restaurant (not unlike Momofuku CCDC and Momofuku Milk Bar). Based on what you've seen, and based on what you know about this website, do you think that would be consistent?]

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[Pat, is the coffee bar a completely separate area than the fine-dining restaurant will be? You know what I'm getting at here: I'm thinking Pineapple and Pearls needs to be sliced into two threads - one for the coffee bar, the other for the restaurant (not unlike Momofuku CCDC and Momofuku Milk Bar). Based on what you've seen, and based on what you know about this website, do you think that would be consistent?]

I think that call will have to wait until both parts are operating.  The counter they have in the front for taking the coffee orders I would imagine will double as a host stand in the evening. It seems like a pretty solid fixture.  Since the construction in the back isn't fully complete, I don't know how much partition there will be between front and back.  It seems like a separate space now, but that's deliberate on their part due to the fact the back isn't completely ready yet.

With the small space they have up front now, coffee is a standing experience (and there were a number of people standing in the window drinking coffee when I arrived.)  I didn't ask if the space in the back would eventually be opened up for people to sit while they have coffee and breakfast sandwiches.

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A few criticisms and a compliment to the Egg Hash Sandwich with Salsa Verde and Masa Bread:

The two most dominating parts of the sandwich: mayo and a cabbage type slaw, were not listed on the menu and were a bit of a surprise when I got the sandwich. Also the salsa verde (I love salsa verde in all its forms) was pretty much non-existent.

The whole sandwich, even the toasted bread, was room temp or cold. Perhaps they are pre-toasting the bread.

The sandwich was a nice size for $7.50 and the side of sliced dried chilies were a nice smoky, spicy complement.

Lastly, and most importantly, the amount of waste with the wrappers and the boxes and the bag and the plastic containers with the chilies, was a bit staggering for a breakfast sandwich. I do hope they find a way to remedy this.

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I had the falafel a little bit ago and really dug it.  The price may seem a bit steep, but the pita is freshly made in house, and the toppings are top notch.  Great hot sauce as well.  Compared with the egg sandwich, I much preferred the falafel.

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Well last week's hot topic on here was the pricing/experience at the forthcoming Shaw Bijou.

Tim Carman reports that Pineapple and Pearls will begin serving dinner starting April 7 at a whopping $250 per person. But! That includes food, drink pairings, tax and gratuity. Like Shaw Bijou, it will sell tickets.

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Well last week's hot topic on here was the pricing/experience at the forthcoming Shaw Bijou.

Tim Carman reports that Pineapple and Pearls will begin serving dinner starting April 7 at a whopping $250 per person. But! That includes food, drink pairings, tax and gratuity. Like Shaw Bijou, it will sell tickets.

 

Broken down, it's $125 for food, $65 for drinks, $20 for tax, and $40 for tip, which is in-line with other upscale prix-fixe meals. Personally, I prefer to know how much I'm paying, and the *less* shock that people express at seeing $250, the *more* we progress forward as independent thinkers; the difference in pricing is nothing more than a psychological one, because people, for so long, have been manipulated into believing that $19.99 is less than $20.00, or that a $35.16 Restaurant Week menu actually costs $35.16.

However, the article makes no mention of what happens if people choose not to drink alcohol, or buy a bottle of wine, or whether they allow corkage - those are pretty big unanswered questions.

All this said, just as I no longer purchase Henri Jayer or Coche-Dury, there was exactly one time in 2015 when I spent this much on a meal (and that meal was almost *exactly* the same price, broken down and everything). I'm not saying that I wouldn't spend that much (in fact, in the right situation, I would); merely that, in general, I feel like I can dine *really* well without shelling out this much money. The best thing about not having an expense account is that it forces you to fly low to the ground, and makes you a better restaurant critic.

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It's funny, the $150 price for the Shaw Bijou didn't strike me as horribly expensive, but this one (at first) seemed prohibitively expensive until I read Don's breakdown and realized they're both probably going to end up to cost the same.

I understand Don's point about knowing exactly what you're paying for, but I do like this aspect too (from the article): Pineapple and Pearls wants to "eliminate the guest from ever having to look at a bill," Silverman says. "When you show up, you have nothing to worry about. Everything is paid for. All you have to do is sit back and have a good time. We'll take care of the rest."

That's a nice feature for a special night out. The other thing that was mentioned that is pretty cool is "At Pineapple and Pearls, Silverman says there will be no sticker shock. A $250 dinner will cost $250." They made a point to mention that unlike a lot of high end places (Per Se) there are no additional charges for supplements.

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Don, I had the same reaction as you. I would eagerly try this (and don't think it's a bad deal with all the charges included) BUT my husband does not drink alcohol.  I would be hard-pressed to think that a few mocktails would cost the same as the alcoholic pairings, and it makes me a bit uncomfortable that the price is the same booze or not....

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will there be a la carte drinks available? or just with pairings?

if the former I could foresee several levels of tickets: the full-on drink pairings level, slightly cheaper with mocktails, and a food only one for those who abstain or want to just purchase a la carte (say one cocktail and/or a bottle of wine).

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One thing that strikes me as a little strange is the fact that they are not going to be open on Saturday night.  Seems like a weird choice for special occasion type of place where the meal will likely be many hours long.

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Man, I am starting to get really angry about "blank and blank" restaurant names.  Although this one not so much--if it was truly hipster millennial nonsense that angers me, it would be singular pearl.

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Broken down, it's $125 for food, $65 for drinks, $20 for tax, and $40 for tip, which is in-line with other upscale prix-fixe meals. Personally, I prefer to know how much I'm paying, and the *less* shock that people express at seeing $250, the *more* we progress forward as independent thinkers; the difference in pricing is nothing more than a psychological one, because people, for so long, have been manipulated into believing that $19.99 is less than $20.00, or that a $35.16 Restaurant Week menu actually costs $35.16.

However, the article makes no mention of what happens if people choose not to drink alcohol, or buy a bottle of wine, or whether they allow corkage - those are pretty big unanswered questions.

All this said, just as I no longer purchase Henri Jayer or Coche-Dury, there was exactly one time in 2015 when I spent this much on a meal (and that meal was almost *exactly* the same price, broken down and everything). I'm not saying that I wouldn't spend that much (in fact, in the right situation, I would); merely that, in general, I feel like I can dine *really* well without shelling out this much money. The best thing about not having an expense account is that it forces you to fly low to the ground, and makes you a better restaurant critic.

Mar 9, 2016 - "$250 Actually Isn't Bad For An All-Inclusive Tasting Menu" by Becky Krystal on washingtonpost.com

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The part that is absurd is automatically charging $65 (or thereabouts) for drinks. I don't have more than 3 drinks at dinner, usually just 2 (and I'm not splurging on the most expensive wines). That would be an even more bitter pill to swallow for a teetotaler. Another issue is that by including drinks, most people would feel compelled to drink it. Even 3 drinks puts a driver at risk of DUI.

I think most people like options to some extent, like whether they want booze pairing. I think a couple of all in prices would work, $250 for boozers, $200 for non-boozers, for example.

edited to clarify my point.

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$65 isn't too low if you don't want to drink. Anything above $0 is too high.

Anyway, long story short, better not go there if you're a teetotaler (or in recovery).

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Anyway, long story short, better not go there if you're a teetotaler (or in recovery).

Or pregnant. I went to minibar when I was pregnant. Although I was sad not to partake in the alcohol pairings I was very glad not to have to pay for them.

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I'm wondering if this place is charging $$$ to get some Michelin eyes on it? I'm sure it'll be an memorable experience for all that go. 

You just have to be REALLY into eating to shell out $250 a person on a meal. And many will continue to do just that. Smell a win here. 

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Reservations opened up this morning for the week of 4/12.  I logged in (you need to register with GiftRocker) to check it out.

It come up with several options:

Dining Room - you can book for either 2,3,4 people for $250/each

Chef's Counter - you can book for 2 people for $250/each

Bar Seating - you can book for either 1 or 2 people for $150 (beverages not included)

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Bar Seating - you can book for either 1 or 2 people for $150 (beverages not included)

Irony alert...

Perhaps ironic, but my initial guess is that neither tax nor tip are included either, i.e., it's $150 just for the food. I don't know this, of course, but if $150 is all-inclusive except for beverages, that's a relatively good value.

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Perhaps ironic, but my initial guess is that neither tax nor tip are included either, i.e., it's $150 just for the food. I don't know this, of course, but if $150 is all-inclusive except for beverages, that's a relatively good value.

I should have indicated that in my post. The $150 is inclusive of food, tax and tip. Beverages not included.

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So they're pricing the drinks at $100 essentially? That's some serious pairings.

Essentially this is $115 for dinner and $75 for the pairing, plus tax/tip.

The $75 is on the higher end of the range of what you would see for a pairing with the menu at that price point (probably $50-$60 is typical), but the pairing would normally just be short pours of a few wines to go with the savory courses. If, for that $75, they're doing cocktails and such as well, I think that's not out of line.

Apparently the $250 isn't sent in stone either - you can book the same seat at $225 if you want non-alcoholic pairings.

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I had the falafel a little bit ago and really dug it.  The price may seem a bit steep, but the pita is freshly made in house, and the toppings are top notch.  Great hot sauce as well.  Compared with the egg sandwich, I much preferred the falafel.

I was over near here late this morning and decided today was the day I'd finally try the falafel.  I wavered when I saw the spicy fried chicken on the menu, which I'm pretty sure wasn't there last time I went in, but I went through with my plan.  Given how good Rose's bread is, I wasn't surprised that the house made pita was high quality.  For some reason, I just loved the beets in this.  They really stood out.  Also enjoyed the hot sauce and, well, the whole thing.

A friend was walking along with me and declined to order same, as she's caring for her mother who is on a restricted diet after surgery and can't have garlic.  "It would be cruel" to bring falafel home, she said.  As we walked, the smell of garlic wafted from my backpack.  It got stronger and stronger until I was ready to rip the box open and start eating on the sidewalk.  It is street food, after all  :lol: .  But I knew I'd make too much of a mess trying to eat it as I walked, so I toughed it out.  My friend was right, though.  It would be cruel to bring this within smelling distance of someone who can't eat garlic.

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Are 6:30, 7:00 or 7:30 an option for a seating?  

Times depend on the number of guests you have, but those do not look like options.  The closest I see is 6PM for 2 guests, and I see 8:15 for 2 guests as well.  Some of the slots are booked all the way through on the calendar, so it's unclear what time they are for.  The pattern says "no" to your question, though.  (Perhaps you're looking at the same calendar I am and I'm being of no help.)

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This is interesting. I'm a little shocked there is any availability at all, and there looks to be quite of bit of availability. I guess it's the difference between one table a night (rooftop garden) and many tables a night.

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This is interesting. I'm a little shocked there is any availability at all, and there looks to be quite of bit of availability. I guess it's the difference between one table a night (rooftop garden) and many tables a night.

I believe that Pineapple and Pearls have a total of 59 seats available for any of the four nights they are open.  This includes dining room, bar and chef's counter.  Note that they are only open from Tuesday through Friday evenings.

As of 12:05AM on March 30th the following number of seats are available for April 12th through the end of April.

Tuesday 4/12 2 seats (of 59 potential)

Wednesday 4/13 sold out

Thursday 4/14 16 seats

Friday 4/15 4 seats

Tuesday 4/19 17 seats

Wednesday 4/20 25 seats

Thursday 4/21 14 seats

Friday 4/22 3 seats

Tuesday 4/26 44 seats

Wednesday 4/27 48 seats

Thursday 4/28 45 seats

Friday 4/29 26 seats

For such a highly anticipated restaurant there are a surprising number of seats available.  Several thoughts:

@ $500 for two people they are not going to get two turnovers on at least two of their four nights.

They are going to need to open on Saturdays.

There is a different level of expectations in spending $500 to dine for two people:  starting what will be a two and one half hour+ meal @ 5:00 on a weeknight is not desirable.

For the same amount of money and a couple of weeks notice I can reserve at 7:00PM at Fiola Mare, Komi and several others, choose my own wine or beverage and dine very, very well.

I honestly expect barring extraordinary national press that they will open three nights a week to one turnover in the dining room, perhaps two at the bar and chef's table and two nights (including Saturday) for two turnovers.  $500 is a lot of money to spend.

Also, as someone who heavily entertained for almost 30 years I cannot imagine asking a client to have dinner at 5:00 or 5:15PM.  They are going to need business diners to suppliment the model they expect.

@$500 for two people  Pineapple and Pearls is going to have to be flexible.  Note that Laboratorio with about 30 seats opened @  7:00 PM for everyone.  I sincerely wish them well - the greater their success the greater the recognition for D. C.   I am merely suggesting this is a new league for them and there is quite a bit of sincere competition.

They are opening a national class restaurant with appropriate prices.  They are going to have to cement their excellence before 5:00PM seats are fully booked on weeknights.

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Personally, I'm surprised that there are so many bookings.

I'm not spending $500 on dinner unless I've heard it's fantastic from a number of sources.

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I'm not spending $500 on dinner unless I've heard it's fantastic from a number of sources.

For better or for worse, this.  At that price point I'd rather spend somewhere in Spain or Japan (especially while exchange rates are so favorable by recent standards), or even SF/NYC.  Or simply wait in line at Rose's given that we haven't been in nearly three years.

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A first look at the dinner offerings from Washingtonian

"Scott [Muns], our head chef, has a smoked beef rib dish," Silverman says. "He's excellent at Mexican cuisine, so it's a smoked beef rib with an intricate mole and nixtamalized grits."

"Another plate Silverman is quick to show off: white-asparagus okonomiyaki from sous chef Jonny Black. A tender asparagus spear coated with mushroom duxelles and chicken mousse is rolled in a rice-flour crepe, then topped with bonito flakes for a play on the Japanese street food."

"The nightcap combines Dolin Blanc vermouth, Speyside Scotch, strawberry vinegar from Lindera Farms, and the leftover juice from the compressed strawberries adorning the cheese course."

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For better or for worse, this.  At that price point I'd rather spend somewhere in Spain or Japan (especially while exchange rates are so favorable by recent standards), or even SF/NYC.  Or simply wait in line at Rose's given that we haven't been in nearly three years.

Completely agreed.

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Also from the Washingtonian:

"The seats at the bar are for reservations only, but the experience is different from the dining room and the chef's counter. "We want the bar to have its own appeal to it," Faile says. There, diners will eat the same tasting menu, however drinks are not included, which drops the base price down to $150. Faile's $20 "show cocktails," are available for purchase, and you can also order classics."

Although maybe not ideal, and definitely ironic, those who don't want to drink alcohol can get the tasting menu only at a lower price point if they sit at the bar.

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Although maybe not ideal, and definitely ironic, those who don't want to drink alcohol can get the tasting menu only at a lower price point if they sit at the bar.

That's partially true. If you reserve at the bar, drinks aren't included, but they obviously expect you to order drinks a-la-carte. If you reserve at a table, during checkout, you are asked if you want the alcoholic or non-alcoholic pairing. The non-alcoholic pairing is a lower price, I think by $20 or $30.

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The space is really beautiful - we went to Rose's on Saturday night and Chef Silverman was nice enough to give us a tour before we sat down to eat.  The bar in particular is absolutely gorgeous.  It's definitely not as "homey" of a feel as next door, but it is still very warm and inviting.  The kitchen is magnificent - I couldn't believe it was the same space that used to be a home goods store!

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I'm semi surprised this place hasn't been reviewed as it's already been open for a full week!   I just did a quick tally of available seats and by my count there are 453 open seats between now and May 6th, the last day they are currently offering reservations for.

Both those data points are rather telling.

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I'm semi surprised this place hasn't been reviewed as it's already been open for a full week!   I just did a quick tally of available seats and by my count there are 453 open seats between now and May 6th, the last day they are currently offering reservations for.

Both those data points are rather telling.

I went for one of the soft opening nights and have nothing but good things to say, but wouldn't review a place based on that experience.

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I'm semi surprised this place hasn't been reviewed as it's already been open for a full week!   I just did a quick tally of available seats and by my count there are 453 open seats between now and May 6th, the last day they are currently offering reservations for.

Both those data points are rather telling.

I think more is in play here than just a reluctance to pay the $250 price. The reservation schedule has only two windows for reservations - 5 to 6 PM and 8:15 to 9:15. For many, the first block is too early, due to work schedules and whatnot, and the second window may be to late for starting a 2 to 3 hour dining experience in the middle of the workweek. I say that because there is currently only one open reservation (for 3) for Friday, May 13th on the website, and only a few openings on the Fridays proceeding that date.

As someone who often dines as a single, the biggest problem is that the only option I would have for any reservation is at the bar. There are no single reservation options at the tables and booths (for obvious reasons), and none at the Chef's Counter (my favorite spot) in the latest reservation block.

TSchaad

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I'm semi surprised this place hasn't been reviewed as it's already been open for a full week!   I just did a quick tally of available seats and by my count there are 453 open seats between now and May 6th, the last day they are currently offering reservations for.

Both those data points are rather telling.

I am not surprised at all; potential diners like me are approaching this place with trepidation given Chef Silverman's penchant for "southern/comfort" cooking.  For $250 a head, I first want to see the menu and hope that it includes the likes of caviar, foie, wagyu, etc...  The fact that P&P operates as a morning cafe serving fried chicken sandwiches also cheapens the brand for me personally.

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I am not surprised at all; potential diners like me are approaching this place with trepidation given Chef Silverman's penchant for "southern/comfort" cooking. For $250 a head, I first want to see the menu and hope that it includes the likes of caviar, foie, wagyu, etc... The fact that P&P operates as a morning cafe serving fried chicken sandwiches also cheapens the brand for me personally.

The Chefs Table at Brooklyn Fare is Michelin 3 Star restaurant. Attached to a grocery store.
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The Chefs Table at Brooklyn Fare is Michelin 3 Star restaurant. Attached to a grocery store.

Yes, I know. The concept does not appeal to me.

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I am not surprised at all; potential diners like me are approaching this place with trepidation given Chef Silverman's penchant for "southern/comfort" cooking.  For $250 a head, I first want to see the menu and hope that it includes the likes of caviar, foie, wagyu, etc...  The fact that P&P operates as a morning cafe serving fried chicken sandwiches also cheapens the brand for me personally.

"Cheapens the brand"...really?  who cares what the cafe serves during the day? (other than you obviously).

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"Cheapens the brand"...really?  who cares what the cafe serves during the day? (other than you obviously). 

Hmmm.... $250 a head at night vs. a $10 falafel sandwich during the day from the same restaurant.  To each his own, I guess.

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Hmmm.... $250 a head at night vs. a $10 falafel sandwich during the day from the same restaurant.  To each his own, I guess.

wow, that's one of the most ridiculous rationals I've read on this board, and a lot of ridiculous things have been posted on this board over the years.

Was the Laboratorio experience cheapen because Roberto served kick ass roast pork sandwiches from the same space during lunch?  That's just silly.

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I get a sense that some people are hoping for crash and burn ... Just the tone of a lot of people. The fact that it sounds like what Rose's isn't is why I'm not excited about it.

Hey, that whole falafel thing in the AM and fine dining just might not appeal to people. Like listening to Yo Yo Ma at a dive bar, haha ... Not a big deal to me, but it might be for others.

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1 hour ago, Tweaked said:

Hmmm.... $250 a head at night vs. a $10 falafel sandwich during the day from the same restaurant.  To each his own, I guess.

wow, that's one of the most ridiculous rationals I've read on this board, and a lot of ridiculous things have been posted on this board over the years.  

 

Was the Laboratorio experience cheapen because Roberto served kick ass roast pork sandwiches from the same space during lunch?  That's just silly. 

How many times are you going to modify your posts? :)

As I had politely mentioned earlier, the concept does not appeal to me personally.  Ridiculous or not, that is my opinion.  I enjoy a falafel and a fried chicken sandwich just like most people on this forum.  Also, just like many of you here, I have traveled extensively and eaten at some highly coveted restaurants (Michelin and not) throughout the world.  For a price of $250 a person, most (if not all) high end restaurants in Europe and Asia will be fully committed to their lunch/dinner service only, where an almost identical menu is served.  I hope P&P is a massive success (Sietsema's just published WP review seems to suggest it will be) and will be trying it in the near future.  The overall inexpensive cafe/expensive restaurant concept is a bit too casual for my liking, however.

 

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1 hour ago, Simul Parikh said:

I get a sense that some people are hoping for crash and burn ... Just the tone of a lot of people. The fact that it sounds like what Rose's isn't is why I'm not excited about it. 

I wouldn't go that far, but it's hard not to get a feeling of hubris when observing Silverman in general. Whether it's the no reservation policy at Rose's, or the lack of Saturday service at P&P, you certainly get a "I'm doing it my way and if you don't like it screw you" vibe. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with that...it's entirely his right, and good for him if he can back it up.

Still, I'd never, ever root for someplace to crash and burn...I have too much respect for anyone that takes the risk to open a restaurant. But at the same time, I don't root for them to succeed as much as I might root for people like Ferhat, or Jeff Heineman, etc., those that truly seem to care about what's best for their customers.

Then there's the price. I think it's safe to say that most places in town that are at a similar price point are those that started lower and moved up as their stature improved. I remember Minibar at $65. Jumping in on top, again, is a bold move, especially with the ticketing policy.

So to sum up, I hope the restaurant is fantastic and they do great...but don't expect me to be enthusiastic about it.

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2 hours ago, MSDCX said:

How many times are you going to modify your post? :)

As I had politely mentioned earlier, the concept does not appeal to me personally.  Ridiculous or not, that is my opinion.  I enjoy a falafel and a fried chicken sandwich just like most people on this forum.  Also, just like many of you here, I have traveled extensively and eaten at some highly coveted restaurants (Michelin and not) throughout the world.  For a price of $250 a person, most (if not all) high end restaurants in Europe and Asia will be fully committed to their lunch/dinner service only, where an almost identical menu is served.  I hope P&P is a massive success (Sietsema's just published WP review seems to suggest it will be) and will be trying it in the near future.  The overall inexpensive cafe/expensive restaurant concept is a bit too casual for my liking, however.

 

Whatever.  I fail to see how a falafel served 8 hours before hand, in a section of the establishment that you walk past to get to the dining room, cheapens your experience of eating bone marrow served in an egg shell. 

And I'll modify one of my posts as many times as I want to modify one of my posts.  Thank you very much.  

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6 hours ago, JoshNE said:

I'm semi surprised this place hasn't been reviewed as it's already been open for a full week!   I just did a quick tally of available seats and by my count there are 453 open seats between now and May 6th, the last day they are currently offering reservations for. 

 

Both those data points are rather telling.

 

I went for one of the soft opening nights and have nothing but good things to say, but wouldn't review a place based on that experience.

Likewise.  That said, Sietsema's very favorable review nicely describes a number of the things we noticed, enjoyed, and happily consumed. 

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On 4/4/2016 at 0:55 PM, DanielK said:

That's partially true. If you reserve at the bar, drinks aren't included, but they obviously expect you to order drinks a-la-carte. If you reserve at a tabe, during checkout, you are asked if you want the alcoholic or non-alcoholic pairing. The non-alcoholic pairing is a lower price, I think by $20 or $30.

Yes, at the bar, you can choose what you want for drinks.  I had dinner at the bar and pre-paid $150 for food.  Once I was there, I was given the option of the alcoholic beverage pairing ($100) or a cocktail or wine by the glass.  I didn't ask, but I would assume you could ask for the non alcoholic pairing as well.  As of last week, I think cocktails were available at the bar but not the dining room.  I enjoyed both the presentation and taste of the coffee cocktail ($20 including tip/tax) (I'd order the coffee cocktail with dessert).

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On 3/30/2016 at 0:20 PM, mtureck said:

Personally, I'm surprised that there are so many bookings.

I'm not spending $500 on dinner unless I've heard it's fantastic from a number of sources.

Agreed. Theoretically, the pedigree is there (I have no idea as I will never go to Rose's Luxury myself due to no reservations policy and I have no desire to wait hours for a table).

On 3/6/2016 at 6:48 PM, Bart said:

One thing that strikes me as a little strange is the fact that they are not going to be open on Saturday night.  Seems like a weird choice for special occasion type of place where the meal will likely be many hours long.

I do too. For $250 a head all in for a multiple-hours dinner during the week is a little odd. I have done it, but I prefer to do this thing on a Friday (which they do have), Sunday or Saturday (especially!). I'd rather they be open Wednesday to Sunday and I might actually go there. With their current hours....? It just quickly went way down on my list to try. I'd rather go to Kinship.

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Doesn't look like we've split the thread yet, so...

Hubby (and doggie) and I walked to P&P on Friday afternoon to grab lunch.  We were thrilled to see and catch up with Jeff F. - it had been a long time.  The place was doing a very steady business - seemed like more people were going in for coffee/pastry than for sandwiches, but it was on the earlier side.

We got the fried chicken sandwich and the falafel sandwich, both of which were $9.  If I had to choose a favorite, the falafel would win by a nose - it was really fresh and tasty, and I thought it was huge for the price.  The chicken sandwich was a nice mix of sweet and salty, but it was very hard to eat without utensils - I went back in to see if they had a plastic fork or something, and no dice.  Maybe they would have had cutlery if I'd asked, but I was in a bit of a hurry, and I think it's a little weird for a 100% take-out place not to have that kind of thing out for customers to grab.

We wolfed everything down - very, very good.  Not someplace we'll go every week, but it's a nice, quick option that also is a high-quality product.

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There's a part of me that wants to try P&P, but there are 3 reasons I probably won't.

1) I don't drink alcohol and I'm not going to spend $75 on a mocktail pairing.  I find it offensive.  I know I can avoid that by sitting at the bar, but why require people who don't drink to sit at the bar??  

2) They aren't open on Saturdays. I believe it's a terrible business decision and they will eventually realize it.   My work schedule isn't predictable enough to make a weeknight reservation with 100% certainty, and I'm not going to risk $250 on it.

3) I ate their spicy fried chicken sandwich for lunch and, maybe I'm just clueless about acceptable ways of frying chicken, but it was burnt to a crisp on the outside (to the point where it was black in color and the outer 1/2 centimeter of the chicken had zero moisture and was stringy.  Maybe I'm just ignorant and this is a perfectly acceptable way to fry chicken, and I'd be curious if that is in fact the case.  Even if I am wrong, if the chef can't cook a fried chicken sandwich to my taste, I'm not going to trust them enough to drop $250 on dinner.

I won't wish failure on a restaurant, but I do worry that if Aaron Silverman succeeds with P&P in its current form, he will push the envelope even more on his next restaurant and require guests to eat blindfolded standing up, cook their own food and clean their own table, charge $25 for special filtered water, or something similarly absurd.

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One other thing: today I was working in the area (kinda) so decided to go for lunch. That chicken sandwich is outta this world, and the cappucino is fantastic, too.

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On 4/25/2016 at 8:08 PM, ALargeFarva said:

There's a part of me that wants to try P&P, but there are 3 reasons I probably won't.

1) I don't drink alcohol and I'm not going to spend $75 on a mocktail pairing.  I find it offensive.  I know I can avoid that by sitting at the bar, but why require people who don't drink to sit at the bar??  

2) They aren't open on Saturdays. I believe it's a terrible business decision and they will eventually realize it.   My work schedule isn't predictable enough to make a weeknight reservation with 100% certainty, and I'm not going to risk $250 on it.

3) I ate their spicy fried chicken sandwich for lunch and, maybe I'm just clueless about acceptable ways of frying chicken, but it was burnt to a crisp on the outside (to the point where it was black in color and the outer 1/2 centimeter of the chicken had zero moisture and was stringy.  Maybe I'm just ignorant and this is a perfectly acceptable way to fry chicken, and I'd be curious if that is in fact the case.  Even if I am wrong, if the chef can't cook a fried chicken sandwich to my taste, I'm not going to trust them enough to drop $250 on dinner.

I won't wish failure on a restaurant, but I do worry that if Aaron Silverman succeeds with P&P in its current form, he will push the envelope even more on his next restaurant and require guests to eat blindfolded standing up, cook their own food and clean their own table, charge $25 for special filtered water, or something similarly absurd.

1) I can't disagree with this point. I would love to have dined at the kitchen counter. 

2) I think you're wrong.  Of course I'm only speculating, but I believe Silverman et al have built enough of a following that they will have no problem filling tables Tuesday thru Friday.  Having the other days off means Rose's Luxury won't be playing second fiddle to P&P, so quality won't suffer. Not just the quality of the food, but the quality of the staff and therefore the quality of the experience.

3) Sucks about the chicken, but mistakes happen. If mine had come out that way I would have politely asked them to make me another. The one I ate today was nothing like what you described.  I hope yours was the aberration, not mine!

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53 minutes ago, porcupine said:

Nonetheless, I wanted to try Pineapple and Pearls because I have a lot of respect for what the Rose's Luxury team has done.

I don't have the vocabulary to describe how wonderful the meal was.  Many dishes presented had crazy combinations of ingredients that couldn't possibly work together, but every one did.  They were brilliantly conceived and perfectly executed.

There's no use to me describing the food.  I loved it, I loved the experience (they know how to be hospitable), and I can't wait to go back to see what Silverman and his crew come up with next.

Please book a meal at Metier and do a comparison!!!    (kidding......not really kidding)

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2 minutes ago, Bart said:

Please book a meal at Metier and do a comparison!!!    (kidding......not really kidding)

I'll take up that challenge.  Metier booked for mid-May.

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24 minutes ago, JoshNE said:

I'll take up that challenge.  Metier booked for mid-May.

I'm going tonight....whooo-hooo,  but don't have a P&P visit planed yet.  All the talk upthread scared me a little.

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1 minute ago, Robert Rymarz said:

With neither open 30 days yet. Imagine after giving them a full year of service. 

Hey man...I have less than 2 months left in DC!  Gotta get in while the getting's good.

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was at Pineapple and Pearls a little over a week ago.  I sum it up in two words:  HOLY CRAP.  Honestly, I think the space, execution, and service are impeccable.  The distinguishing factor between this and other restaurants with high-end tasting menus is that P&P has a fun factor. In my mind, the cost is well worth it. Next time I will sit at the bar and forego all the alcohol- it was just too much for me.  But I loved sitting at the counter and watching the action for my first visit. My blog post has the rest of my impressions.

  

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It just so happens that I prefer tasting menus to a la carte (under the right circumstances), so Pineapple and Pearls was right up my alley. I think it's the perfect place for anyone who has never done a tasting menu or has been intimidated by fine dining in the past. One evening here could possibly turn them onto these kinds of experiences going forward. It's that  awesome.

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I've been meaning to write about our dinner for weeks -- we went on April 19th -- but I've finally gotten to it.  For the weeks between making the reservation and that night, I tried really hard to moderate my expectations, but this was the most excited I'd been about a meal in DC in ages. I'm relieved that I wasn't disappointed. 

My biggest complaint about the night was the early pacing of the meal.  We stood around drinking our cocktails for a few minutes before being led behind the curtain (literally) to our seats at the kitchen counter; not a big deal, but I'd probably have been a bit annoyed if I'd been wearing heels.  The snacks trickled out slowly, and we didn't receive a course more substantial than bite-sized until more than half an hour after we arrived, by which time we were starving.  (I'll chalk it up to newness and assume that the pacing will improve as they get more settled.) 

The room itself is beautiful; the bf commented that it's like what Kinship should be.  (Perhaps controversially, we don't like the Kinship dining room much.  It feels too monochromatic, kind of cold.  We much prefer Kinship's bar area.)  P&P has plenty of white, but pops of colors (like the mustard chairs) and texture (like the strings in a sort of 3D mural on the right wall), plus the view into the huge open kitchen, make it inviting.  I loved being able to watch what the chefs were doing only feet away, although our front-row seats didn't help my mounting hunger.  

The first real dish (after snacks) -- "Avocado and Osetra Caviar" -- was amazing: a perfectly balanced mix of salty roe with creamy avocado ice cream and creme fraiche, punctuated with bursts of finger lime.  

Next course: eggs two ways.  I really liked the beautiful parmesan-infused "Snap Pea & Spring Garlic Egg Drop" soup.  The egg-and-cheese broth, ladled over vibrant spring vegetables (including peas and nasturtium), had just enough chili spiciness to cut the richness, and an herby puree emphasized the dish's springiness.    Unfortunately, the "Blue Ribbon Coddled Egg" was the only real technical (and service) failure of the night.  Although the onion marmalade and morels on top were delicious (and would have paired well with the unctuousness of a runny yolk), our eggs were basically hard-boiled.  We ate the toppings and left most of the egg at the bottom.  (When a waiter came to clear these dishes, he asked which we'd preferred, and I said honestly that it had to be the soup because the other egg was overcooked.  He didn't react to that comment at all, nor seem to notice that we hadn't actually eaten the egg.)  

Loved the "Spanish Mackerel with Wild Ramps & Virginia Bluebell," and mackerel is definitely not one of my favorite fishes. I badly wanted bread (which we didn't yet have) to mop up very drop of the ramp vinegar and puree.  Visually beautiful, brightly oniony, nicely acidic from the vinegar, not too fishy -- just lovely.

"Toasted Rice Bread with White Miso Butter" arrived a course too late to savor the ramps, but I was still excited to see it.  (Years of excellent breads at Rose's have bred high expectations; no pun intended.)  The rice porridge brioche (as it was described) didn't taste noticeably porridgy, but it was predictably tasty, fluffy inside its nicely browned crust.  And the white miso honey butter was fantastic.  Visually evocative of curled shavings of tete de moine cheese, it was creamy and sweet and had just enough funk; we ate it all. 

The "White Asparagus Okonomiyaki" was one of the few dishes that I noticed (from overhearing descriptions to other diners) had meat removed (as opposed to just subbing a course), but I didn't miss the chicken.  White asparagus in a crispy crepe with dashi-soaked maitakes, bonito shavings, lime zest.  So salty in a good way.  (I could see some complaining, but I love salt, especially on crunchy carbs or mushrooms.)  Excellent haute drunk food. 

One of the desserts, the "Pecorino Cake with Basil Gelato," combined elements of pesto -- moist pecorino cake, cheese crisps, basil ice cream, pine nuts -- and (slightly macerated?) strawberries into one of the best desserts that I can remember.  Flawless.  The chocolate souffle was well executed if not unusual; loved the "Crispy Buckwheat & Honeycomb Ice Cream" that accompanied it -- the roasted buckwheat groats' savoriness tempered the honeyed sweetness.

I see Pineapple and Pearls becoming one of our favorite splurges in DC, especially if the menu changes frequently.  There has been a lot of debate about the price -- $250/person is going to cause sticker shock -- but considering that it's all-inclusive, it's a bit cheaper than Komi, a lot cheaper than minibar (whose inflated price at the new location combined with too much of the same old menu really galled me), and generally a good value (to the extent such a thing is possible at this cost) in terms of food and overall experience.  (Plus, prepaying allows for a certain charming seamlessness to ending the evening without the presentation of a check.)  We both opted for the wine pairing at my urging, but we'll definitely do one non-alcoholic pairing next time.  The wines were all good (and the pours so generous that we didn't end up finishing a number of glasses, which isn't our norm), but nothing stands out as a particularly unusual wine or an especially astounding pairing with the food, two features common to our favorite pairing experiences over the years.  (I realize that when the pairing is the only option, you've got to tailor it to please as many people as possible; I assume this pairing will satisfy most diners.)  In contrast, the non-alcoholic pairing sounded like it would include a number of very interesting drinks, and the hazelnut and pistachio nut milks that we tried in lieu of end-of-the-meal caffeine suggest that P&P will do them well.  Next time.  We'll be back, and probably pretty soon.

Full write-up of all dishes with photos: fromagophile.blogspot.com/2016/05/pineapple-and-pearls.html.

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My wife surprised me with dinner here last night. Good lord. It's absolutely outstanding, and probably the best meal I've had in DC, top to bottom. I'll go over it a bit more later with the menu so I can better remember exactly what we had. Our meal was quite similar to jca76, with some differences (our caviar course had potato ice cream rather than avocado - and was incredible). 

We sat at the chef's table, facing the kitchen, which was very cool. Service is fantastic, in the was that Rose's has always been able to pull off. And while I was confused about the space, with the coffee shop in front and fine dining in the back, I think it works very well in practice. 

Just an incredible experience. 

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We are headed here next Friday night with friends.  We have a later reservation (8:45).  Looking for suggestions on a place to meet up before hand and grab a drink.  Any suggestions?

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We are headed here next Friday night with friends.  We have a later reservation (8:45).  Looking for suggestions on a place to meet up before hand and grab a drink.  Any suggestions?

Harold black

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On 5/21/2016 at 9:10 AM, jandres374 said:

We are headed here next Friday night with friends.  We have a later reservation (8:45).  Looking for suggestions on a place to meet up before hand and grab a drink.  Any suggestions?

We did Beuchert's Saloon, and I'd definitely recommend it. Barrel also does cocktails well. 

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2 hours ago, danielahn31 said:

For the people that have went, would you rather eat at Roses and have more control or is Pineapple and Pearls worth the extra cost?

They're very different. But if I wanted a very special occasion experience I wouldn't think twice and would book Pineapple and Pearls. 

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