brr Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Lame ass move by a lame ass brewery http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2013/04/29/oregon-brewing-co-sues-rogue-24-for-trademark-infringement/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Lame ass move by a lame ass brewery http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2013/04/29/oregon-brewing-co-sues-rogue-24-for-trademark-infringement/ This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Good thing they didn't call the restaurant "Dog 24" or "Dominion 24." Oh, wait a minute, there's a Lost Dog Cafe and a Dominion Deli in the area. Someone write and warn them! Or, for that matter, Cooper's 24. Somebody find out the names of the lawyers and post them here, please. I need to write the Oxford English Dictionary so they can sue the brewery. Time for a boycott of Rogue beers? I think this is just a cheap publicity stunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad.mich Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Good thing they didn't call the restaurant "Dog 24" or "Dominion 24." Oh, wait a minute, there's a Lost Dog Cafe and a Dominion Deli in the area. Someone write and warn them! I don't think Lost Dog Cafe is the best example here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza man Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Rogue makes the best beers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Many years ago Sony Corp. sued a little Filipino restaurant in Baltimore named "Sony's", which was the owner's name. Sony asked for nearly $3million in damages. The woman fought it as long as she could but eventually changed the name and soon after went out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. From reading the article, it sounds as though the trigger for this is that they heard about his tentative plans for the bar. As Tim Carman noted, there are other restaurants with Rogue in the name that haven't been threatened with a suit. The bar name, even if they had no plans to go forward with it under that name, would have been an infringement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I don't think Lost Dog Cafe is the best example here. I'd actually once heard that the owners here were somewhat prick-like, but never saw any reason to believe it ... until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'd actually once heard that the owners here were somewhat prick-like, but never saw any reason to believe it ... until now. It may sound harsh, but as a matter of trademark law, if you fail to police your mark, you may lose your rights to do so in the future. It may not be so important if it is a coffee shop in West Virginia, but would be a bigger problem if the owners of the Forest Inn across the street decided to rename it the Lost Dog Inn and there was nothing the Lost Dog Cafe could do to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 It may sound harsh, but as a matter of trademark law, if you fail to police your mark, you may lose your rights to do so in the future. It may not be so important if it is a coffee shop in West Virginia, but would be a bigger problem if the owners of the Forest Inn across the street decided to rename it the Lost Dog Inn and there was nothing the Lost Dog Cafe could do to stop it. Wouldn't this also apply to the Rogue case? They apparently knew about the name for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Wouldn't this also apply to the Rogue case? They apparently knew about the name for awhile. It would be a factor, but with all things legal, it is a matter of degrees. However, it appears the letter writing between the lawyers has been going on for some time before it escalated into a lawsuit. There is a lot that goes into these cases (btw, I am not a trademark lawyer so please take this all with the largest grain of salt you can locate) so who knows how this will turn out. I am sure Rogue 24's lawyers think they have some pretty strong defenses. My favorite example of this issue is when Ben & Jerry's introduced Cherry Garcia without first getting permission from Jerry Garcia. When he learned of it, Garcia reportedly shook it off and said: "At least they're not naming a motor oil after me, man." To which his lawyer replied: "They will name a motor oil after you if you don't confront this, Jerry. You'll have no control over your name at all." The lawyer protested to Ben & Jerry's and they settled with a licensing deal and today you can still enjoy a pint of Cherry Garcia, but you will find nary a can of Jerry Garcia motor oil. Hal Kant obituary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toogs Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Dang, I am going to miss dead guy and morimoto pilsner. This aggression will not stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choirgirl21 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Ridiculous. I hope things resolve before the legal fees start getting racked up for RJ. I'll be sending Rogue an email although I'm sure it will never be seen by anyone related to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Hal Kant obituary. Good thing for Wendy Buckley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparrott Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I always follow Nissan Rogues because I think I'll get free beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choirgirl21 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Come to think of it, why does the equipment at my Crossfit gym not dispense beer as well? http://www.roguefitness.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericandblueboy Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Is Sarah Palin's Going Rogue about getting a beer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMike Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Perhaps Jake can confirm this, but wasn't it Rogue beer who also sued the NOLA bartenders who wrote a cocktail guide called something with the word "Rogue" in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRiv18 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Yep, it was called rogue cocktails and now it's called beta cocktails after they supposedly received a cease-and-desist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMike Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) Yep, it was called rogue cocktails and now it's called beta cocktails after they supposedly received a cease-and-desist. Yeah, I was just reminded of that on Twitter. I never saw the cease-and-desist personally, but there was no love for Rogue beer in the NOLA bartending community due to it. EDIT: Another mention of it: http://www.kindredcocktails.com/review/beta-cocktails Edited May 2, 2013 by SeanMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ad.mich Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Guys, considering that Rogue owns and operates Louis' Rogue strip club right down the street, can you blame them? Wait, that's not them either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPop Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Ahhh, Louis' Rogue. Had a couple drunken, really awkward happy hours there with rowdy coworkers back when I worked in Chinatown. I bet RJ would fancy the place, and I'm SURE Michael Landrum does..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMike Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I had one Rogue beer in my fridge and I drank it last night. No more for me...and now to get my ass down to Hogo to get some of RJ's food this week, and if things go well with the lady friend, see about bringing her to R24 to help support *our* Rogue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRiv18 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Forgot about, in the local burger scene, how Rogue States became the Black and Orange. (Spoiler: same plaintiff). In case you can't access the subscription only article, here's a substantially similar story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diningindc Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Is RJ Cooper on here or one of his staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Is RJ Cooper on here or one of his staff? It's been too long, Lisa. RJ is quite active here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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