Monica Bhide Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 Hubby and I are looking for a place to head to dinner tonite.. nothing very expensive.Any suggestions?? Little one is off for his first ever sleepover so we are on our own
Jacques Gastreaux Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 Have you been to Da Dominico's lately? Best veal chop in town.
Monica Bhide Posted June 3, 2005 Author Posted June 3, 2005 No - I have never been. that sounds really good.
DonRocks Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 If you don't need alcohol - and given your wild reputation, Ms. Bhide, that's a big if - try Shamshiry for a cornish game hen kabob (served on the bone). If you don't need alcohol or meat, head to Sunflower Vegetarian Restaurant in Vienna - one of the few places in town where you can throw a dart at the menu and come up hitting the jackpot (except for the desserts which are awful).
Ferhat Yalcin Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 I like PF Changs there and the fried banana rolls
JLK Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Here's the deal: A former colleague slash friend slash mentor is coming to town from CA and wants to meet for drinks reasonably close to his hotel, the Ritz at Tysons. We'll be meeting on a Tuesday night if that matters. Other than a bar at the hotel itself, what are our options? I live and work in DC so I am not really aware of what's out there. At least part of our meeting will be casual catching up, but he's also eager to discuss a business opportunity so a place with room to breathe and not much noise would be great. I appreciate your suggestions!
Stretch Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 How about eCiti Cafe & Bar? Assuming it survived the dot.com bust. There's also the bar at the Capital Grille's Tysons outpost. But I think you'd be fine at the lounge bar in the Ritz. There are plenty of comfortable corner tables ideal for a reunion slash gossip slash pitch.
bigpinot Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 I suggest Fleming's steak house, located in the Courtyard hotel at the corner of International & Chain Bridge. Very close to the Ritz. They have around 100 wines by the glass and very good food. Check it out. http://www.flemingssteakhouse.com/index.htm
JLK Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 I start my new job in the wilds of McLean, VA tomorrow. Wish me luck! More importantly, though, steer me toward good eats. Specifically, I'd love recommendations for: - Good lunch carryout. I'm familiar with the offerings at Tysons, but what else is out there? Cheap is good for this one. Sandwiches? Ethnic eats? All of it. - Good places for casual sitdown lunches. The kinds of restaurants I can go to with local friends or new colleagues. - Interesting happy hour spots. Are there any? Don't say eCitie or whatever it's called. Thanks!
DonRocks Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Before people start chiming in, are you going to be in McLean Tysons Corner, or lovely downtown McLean?P.S. Here's Tysons Corner Expansion thread.---The following posts have been split off into separate threads:Mr. Smith's (Pete)
JLK Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 McLean - Tyson's. Sheesh, what a newbie mistake, right???!!! [Thanks, Monica!]
Hannah Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Don't say eCitie or whatever it's called. For the love of all that is good and holy, don't EVER go to eCitie - it's awful. Really awful. We've been once for a happy hour - the food was bad, and the bar crowd was made up of vaguely Eurotrashy used-car salesmen types with their junior Mr. T starter set jewelry, and similarly desperate looking women. As far as casual/clienty lunch places, other than the regularly scheduled stuff, go with Busara (Watson St. back behind Crate & Barrel/Silver Diner), Bistro 123 (in Tyson's Corner Center, but only accessible from outside), Mr. Smith's (in the shopping center with Tower Records off Rt. 7), or Taste of Saigon (on Greensboro across from the Galleria - good for lunch, seriously empty and a little scary for dinner). Cafe Deluxe might also work, but it's kind of loud and there's not a lot of parking. For carryout, there's a La Prima deli just off Greensboro Dr that makes pretty good sandwiches. Former coworkers have recommended Pilin Thai in the same shopping center as Mr. Smith's, but I can't vouch for that one personally. As far as happy hours, Busara or Mr. Smith's are reliably good (at least if you drink beer); On the Border is pretty standard chain Mexican but has decent margaritas and appetizers.
Meaghan Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Don't go to Colvin Run Tavern. Instead return to DC and drop too much money (by mistake) some place good! I guess, if you have a budget and a client is paying, go ahead to Colvin Run. Hooray on you new job! Lots of Love, Libby Legal P.S. Moby Dick's on Old Dominion Drive is a good bet on the way home (for carryout) if you plan on taking Chain Bridge.
Barbara Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Congratulations on the new job. I hope it turns out to be your fondest wish. Since you list "uptown" as your address, you will be doing the reverse comute, no? Smart move.
revsmile Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) I second Busara's. The bento boxes are more creative at Konami than at other places. I have heard great things about Fleming's Steak House. I am not a fan of Mr. Smith's it was extremely smoky the one night we went there. Pilin Thai is great and cheap, it is in the same shopping center as Mr. Smith's and Gold's Gym. Head a little way down the road to Vienna for Sweet Ginger (Sushi) or Panshjir (Afghan.) I haven't found anything memorable in the mall. Galleria has the usual suspects- Cheesecake Factory, PF Changs, Maggiano's. I should add I experienced the worst service in my life at On the Border, so bad that the manager personally apologized and comped our entire meal. (The waiter stopped in the middle of taking our order to answer his cell phone, among other things) I am in the minority, but I like Colvin Run-- i have heard they have a great daily lunch special. I went during Restaurant Week and had excellent service and food- if they can do it that week, they can do it anytime. Good luck! Edited March 1, 2006 by revsmile
bilrus Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 I like Colvin Run too. Nothing earth shattering but it has always been pretty solid when I've been. Another hole in the wall is Thai Pillin in the strip center with Tower Records. Pretty decent Thai food coming out of this little dump of a place.
Biotech Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 I live in the Tysons side of Vienna and I second Thai Pillin on Rte. 7. It's definitely worth checking out. It's my favorite thai around my house Shamshiry is good as is Panjshir II (far end of Vienna on 123, so traffic can be a pain). Songbird on Old Courthouse at 123 is decent Korean with a large Korean clientele (probably as a result of the US/Korean science cooperative building on Old Gallows). In the same set of strip malls is a Lebanese place which serves up pretty good fare.
amyblues Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 ...The bento boxes are more creative at Konami than at other places. ...I should add I experienced the worst service in my life at On the Border, so bad that the manager personally apologized and comped our entire meal. (The waiter stopped in the middle of taking our order to answer his cell phone, among other things) I'll second Konami. This is within walking distance of my newish job near Tysons and I love it. Extremely fresh fish and reasonable prices. They have a dollar per piece happy hour that I have yet to try, but I will next week with coworkers. Everyone in the office has had problems with On the Border at one point or another, including misplaced orders, wrong orders, and ridiculously long waits for simple items. It's off everyone's list now. Congrats on the new job!
Jill Cheese Lady Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) A new place I have really enjoyed recently is Essential Grille. It's in the space where Restaurant 7 used to be. It's all-natural food that is REALLY delicious. It's not very pricey, so it's a great place for lunch. Their roasted parsnips are to die for and they have this Moroccan chicken dish (had it for dinner) that is one of the best chicken dishes I've ever had. www.essentialgrille.com I also have to second the vote for Thai Pilin. Their 3-Flavor Chicken is my favorite. Edited March 1, 2006 by Jill Cheese Lady
catharine Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 The lunch buffet at Bombay Tandoor (8603 Westwood Center Dr.) is one of the best I've had.
Demvtr Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 I believe that the relatively new Infusion in Tysons I mall (opened by the former owner of Connaught Place in Fairfax) has a buffet lunch. I've had dinner there twice and found it to be better-than-average Indian food. There is also a Neisha Thai in Tysons I. The Lebanese Taverna in Tysons II mall has a take-out area, so you can call ahead and pick your food up quickly. For happy hour, the Clyde's at the intersection of Route 7 and Route 123 has a packed house (and is open until at least midnight, I believe).
Monica Bhide Posted March 1, 2006 Author Posted March 1, 2006 Hey you are in my neck of the woods now.. we should go to lunch and explore all these great places.
Scott Johnston Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 I also live in the Tyson’s side of Vienna (Wolf Trap Woods) and I third Thai Pillin on Rte. 7. Shamshiry is great! Songbird on Old Courthouse at 123 is decent Korean, nice buffet for lunch. Silver Diner and Clyde's have their moments, especially if you want breakfast for lunch or a hamburger. I agree that Tyson's needs a good sandwich and pizza shop.
Escoffier Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) Don't go to Colvin Run Tavern.Instead return to DC and drop too much money (by mistake) some place good! I guess, if you have a budget and a client is paying, go ahead to Colvin Run. Hooray on you new job! Lots of Love, Libby Legal P.S. Moby Dick's on Old Dominion Drive is a good bet on the way home (for carryout) if you plan on taking Chain Bridge. Amen on Colvin Run...the most overrated restaurant in the entire DC/VA/MD area. DaDomenico is also fairly close and if I remember correctly, on the other side of 123 Mr. Smiths (?) (been a really long time since I've been out that way) was a pretty decent place for lunch (10 years ago), and don't forget the new Woo Lae Oak. It was highly recommended by the Post a couple of weeks ago. Fleming's (near DaDomenico) is pricy but good (a great wine list). Songbird is okay but not great Korean. If you have time to drive to Vienna, there are a number of good places there but that may be a bit far for a lunch time. Edited March 1, 2006 by Escoffier
JLK Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Thanks to all of you! I'm excited to dig in and try some of these spots once I settle in at work. Monica, check your e-mail. Today, my new boss took me plus three colleagues to a "get acquainted" lunch (very nice of him) at Corner Bakery (hmm). It's great to have other suggestions for when it's my turn to choose.
Jacques Gastreaux Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 I'll second Da Dominico's. Best veal chop in town. Although it has sort of a "Vesuvio's" feel to the decor.
Bob Wells Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Thanks to all of you! I'm excited to dig in and try some of these spots once I settle in at work. Monica, check your e-mail. Today, my new boss took me plus three colleagues to a "get acquainted" lunch (very nice of him) at Corner Bakery (hmm). It's great to have other suggestions for when it's my turn to choose. One place also worth checking out is Paya Thai, in the same strip as Songbird.
JLK Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Update: I have been completely and utterly stymied in my attempts to go beyond the chains. My young coworkers, in particular, seem anti anything ethnic and unique. But I will persevere. Thus far I have been to the Olive Garden, Corner Bakery, Cafe Deluxe and the pretty lousy cafe in my building's lobby. Oy.
Biotech Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Update: I have been completely and utterly stymied in my attempts to go beyond the chains. My young coworkers, in particular, seem anti anything ethnic and unique. But I will persevere.Thus far I have been to the Olive Garden, Corner Bakery, Cafe Deluxe and the pretty lousy cafe in my building's lobby. Oy. I hope to god you aren't talking about that cafe deluxe by the mall. You'd be better going to the actual mall and eating at Chipotle. I also forgot that if you want a really good bagel, Tyson's Bagel Station on 7 is really good too.
Bob Wells Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 I also forgot that if you want a really good bagel, Tyson's Bagel Station on 7 is really good too. Agreed. Tysons Bagel Market (I think that's the name) is maybe a hair below my local favorite, Bagel Buddies in Fair Lakes, but it's still one of the best in the area. In case anyone is looking for more good bagels, the only other place I'd recommend in NoVa is Main St. Bagel Deli in Fairfax.
JLK Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Today's damage? Noodles and Company. It's time to stop saying yes to having lunch with coworkers.
Biotech Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Today's damage? Noodles and Company. It's time to stop saying yes to having lunch with coworkers. See, now if you are getting down as far as N&C, you need to start branching out on your own. Bazin's is now open on Church (not sure if it is open for lunch). You passed Aarathi which has decent Indian (although I can't attest to their lunch buffet), a bakery in the same strip mall, Amma's, Jammin Java (again not sure of their lunch hours, if any) and were damn close to Whole Foods, Kabuki sushi, Yuma Sushi, a lebanese cafe/store, and the Italian gourmet. None of these are a revelation, but are a far cry from that crap you ate for lunch. Hell, even a panini from the Safeway next door would have been better. Next time I'll give you the keys to my house and you can heat up a few kibbe torpedos I have in my freezer.
Jacques Gastreaux Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 There is a place on Rt. 123 in McLean called J Gilberts that is servicable.
DonRocks Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Update: I have been completely and utterly stymied in my attempts to go beyond the chains. My young coworkers, in particular, seem anti anything ethnic and unique. But I will persevere.Thus far I have been to the Olive Garden, Corner Bakery, Cafe Deluxe and the pretty lousy cafe in my building's lobby. Oy. Today's damage? Noodles and Company. It's time to stop saying yes to having lunch with coworkers. Translation: I've been putting "Kick Me!" signs on my rear end, and then when I get kicked I come online and tell people.
PollyG Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Today's damage? Noodles and Company. It's time to stop saying yes to having lunch with coworkers. Finding the food people at a new workplace can be one of the hardest parts of a job switch. It's taken 5 years, but I almost have a few of them ready to go out for Korean with me. How about Neisha Thai? It's in Tysons Corner Mall (accessible from the outside only) and has brightly colored fruit drinks and a very credible pineapple fried rice served in a pineapple for the children, err, co-workers. The appetizers in particular are presented in more of a high fashion style than in most places. You can get the caffeine addicts buzzed on Thai iced coffee, and rock the worlds of the iced tea crowd with the ginger iced tea. For you: the hoi obb and the yum eggplant appetizer (smokey sweet tender eggplant, fairly hot marinade). That's plenty for lunch.
perrik Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Update: I have been completely and utterly stymied in my attempts to go beyond the chains. My young coworkers, in particular, seem anti anything ethnic and unique. But I will persevere.Thus far I have been to the Olive Garden, Corner Bakery, Cafe Deluxe and the pretty lousy cafe in my building's lobby. Oy. There are times when it is wiser to dine alone. Ditch the young whippersnappers and get something decent to eat. If you're stuck in the social groove, the all-day-breakfast items at Silver Diner can be pretty good (like the caramel French toast made with challah). I'll second the recommendation for Neisha Thai. It's a pretty restaurant (with a sort of Polynesian cave motif), and being attached to a mall they're good at being unthreatening. Spicing tends towards the mild side, but they'll punch it up on request. If you're hungry, try the crispy whole flounder with the ginger sauce.
revsmile Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 I love the spicy pork chilli at jammin java. their chicken salad is great too. The chai is awful though. I will probably be kicked out of Vienna for saying it but Amphora is bad. I don't think I have ever had anything good there other than desserts.
Bob Wells Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 I love the spicy pork chilli at jammin java. their chicken salad is great too. The chai is awful though.I will probably be kicked out of Vienna for saying it but Amphora is bad. I don't think I have ever had anything good there other than desserts. My word for Amphora would not be bad, but ehhh (if that's a word). Plus it's not so cheap, either.
Monica Bhide Posted March 14, 2006 Author Posted March 14, 2006 Jennifer - We should go to Natta Thai sometime.. I love that place. I think we eat there at least once a week.
Biotech Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 My word for Amphora would not be bad, but ehhh (if that's a word). Plus it's not so cheap, either. Mine would. I've never been wowed by the place or even felt the food was a shadow of the diners I grew up with in Jersey. I held hope though, it has everything going for it on the surface: Decor last updated in the 70's, exact layout of a diner, surly waitresses, large menu, greek owners, open 24 hours. Sadly the food doesn't live up. Last trip instead of burgers or meatloaf, I decided to go with Greek food. It was the worst of all! The desserts are decent though. Their coconut cream pie will forever live in my heart as the dessert my wife and I shared as we timed her contractions to 5 minutes - while the waiter figured out what was going on and promptly gave us our check.
Scott Johnston Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 Take the workers to The Vienna Inn for Chili Dogs and Cheese Fries, best damm dive bar in Vienna. Up the street is Fosters that has good burgers and fries (next to Magruders). LOL, the take them (they will trust you after the first two places) to sunflower.
JLK Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 I have used EXACTLY those words. "Chicken and rice! Come on..." How intimidating can a chicken kebob and rice be? Perhaps it's the name of the restaurant but Shamshiry is the best Persian restaurant in the entire D. C. area. Of course they do have more intimidating things like a salmon kebob....
JLK Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 Another day, another chain. Heading to lunch at McCormick & Schmick's today (at least it is free - I have a gift certificate).
JLK Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Thanks, Ravana. It sounds good! Has anyone been to Ichiban in Mclean?
DonRocks Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 The following posts have been split into separate threads: Friends Kabob (Ravana) Ichiban (gnatharobed) Shamshiry (Joe H) Bistro 123 (lizzie) Konami (silentbob)
Wbsmiles Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I'd also have to agree on Thai Pilin for good quick take-out (there are about 10 tables inside, but hard to get a seat at lunch), and Sushi Yama in Vienna. We've also really enjoyed The Essential Grille (easy to get to from our side of Tysons). I've been lucky and have at least a couple of adventurous, non-chain eaters in my office, but if we have a large group there are enough "meat & potato-ers" that we have to go chain (think of chicken and cashews as exotic...). I still have yet to try Konami and Shamshiry, but they are on my list when we can break awy from the chain lunches!
flygirl Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 The only outdoor spot I can think of in Tyson's is the Cafe Deluxe next to Crate and Barrel (I hope I got the name right). are there any others? thanks...
gnatharobed Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 you can sit outside at lebanese taverna in tyson's II but you face the parking garage. konami a mediocre sushi place on rte. 7 has a few outdoor tables.
porcupine Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 I believe Taste of Saigon has a small outdoor seating area.
DonRocks Posted August 24, 2006 Posted August 24, 2006 People were sitting outside at Essential Grille last week.
flygirl Posted August 26, 2006 Posted August 26, 2006 thanks - good suggestions for next time - my friend just wanted to go to Cafe Deluxe. it's ok. not special by a long shot.
squidsdc Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 (Just got home from Tysons Corner--there were diners sitting outside at Chipotle )
JLK Posted August 27, 2006 Posted August 27, 2006 Yeah, and there's always Panera's, uh, sidewalk cafe with a view of the parking lot. Free wireless. Leesburg Pike.
wahoooob Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Hello all.. will be making the trip across the Potomac this weekend for a mini-getaway, staying in Tysons Corner. Can anyone reccomend a dinner spot? Looking for something either ethnic, avant garde or just that d*mn good. No huge meals please, as we will be doing Sunday brunch (and along those lines, ideally under $100 tax + tip but no alcohol). Willing to venture (via car) outside of Tysons for food of course. Any additional info needed?? Thanks!
Anonymouze Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Haandi is down South on route 7 a tiny bit (about 5 or 10 minutes drive) and has really tasty indian food. Just don't say at the Tyson's Marriott unless you get a really quiet room/night. Otherwise I'd like to suggest driving up Route 7 north into Reston or better yet to Great Falls to Fiore Di Luna and in Reston on Lake Anne, you'll find Cafe MontMartre which I mentioned this past week on a post also other places and it's less than 30 minutes from Tyson's corner. (I'm new to the area so goodluck!) I hope I've been of some help... like the blind leading the blind?!
porcupine Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Looking for something either ethnic, <snip> Willing to venture (via car) outside of Tysons for food of course. Any additional info needed?? Thanks! Panjshir II in nearby Vienna?
Hannah Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Busara is right in Tysons, and generally a good bet for dinner. Haandi's pretty good as well. There's also Bistro 123; I haven't tried them for dinner but the lunch entrees were entirely acceptable. You could also hit Ray's the Steaks from Tysons without too much trouble - it's certainly closer than Alexandria.
Joshua Grinnell Posted August 30, 2006 Posted August 30, 2006 Shamshirry is a pretty good bet, though it can get a little crowded and full of small children running around. Get the chelo kabob barg (filet mignon with rice) and ignore the bread you get when you sit down. 8607 Westwood Center Drive You'll notice most of these posts are kind of steering you away from Tysons Corner proper... there are good reasons for that.
Joe H Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 The Monterey Bay Fish Grotto which claims to be the best "fresh fish restaurant in Pittsburgh" is opening their third outpost in the new office building adjacent to the Ritz Carlton at Tysons Corner. This is their website: http://montereybay.citysearch.com/ My guess is that they fall in the Legal/McCormick and Schmicks/Phillips model. In Reston the new 22 story Midtown West will see California's Il Fornaio opening on its ground floor next year. This will be their 24th restaurant with most in California and others in Nevada, Colorado and Washington. Zagat gives them 22 points for food in CA which is not an encouraging rating. My expectation is for a somewhat more upscale Carabba's which is not all that bad, just not the great chef owned restaurant that Reston needs. Their website: http://www.ilfornaio.com/ The Original Soupman of New York fame has opened a local franchise in Tysons Corner. After several stops there I only appreciated the Bread Line or New York's Hale and Hearty that much more.
JLK Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 The south tower of the Wachovia building on Pinnacle Drive is getting a restaurant. The early report is upscale Mediterranean.
baczkowski Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 The Monterey Bay Fish Grotto which claims to be the best "fresh fish restaurant in Pittsburgh" is opening their third outpost in the new office building adjacent to the Ritz Carlton at Tysons Corner. This is their website: http://montereybay.citysearch.com/ My guess is that they fall in the Legal/McCormick and Schmicks/Phillips model.In Reston the new 22 story Midtown West will see California's Il Fornaio opening on its ground floor next year. This will be their 24th restaurant with most in California and others in Nevada, Colorado and Washington. Zagat gives them 22 points for food in CA which is not an encouraging rating. My expectation is for a somewhat more upscale Carabba's which is not all that bad, just not the great chef owned restaurant that Reston needs. Their website: http://www.ilfornaio.com/ The Original Soupman of New York fame has opened a local franchise in Tysons Corner. After several stops there I only appreciated the Bread Line or New York's Hale and Hearty that much more. Just saw this post now. For what it's worth, my experience was that Monterary Bay DID have the best seafood in Pittsburgh. It was my favorite Pittsburgh restaurant. Now, take that with a shaker of salt b/c I haven't been to the Monroeville location in probably 5 years, (though my parents, who are much less picky, have been and always attest to the quality), they moved locations, and I would admit to being far less experienced and picky (about quality) back then. And Pittsburgh.....well, let's just say that my best friend excitedly told me last month, "Remember that great tapas place [bethesda Jaleo] that you took me to for lunch? Well, we're finally getting a couple tapas places here in a couple months!" Pittsburgh, always on the cutting edge. The Internets might make it there someday. When we were last in Tysons I THOUGHT I saw a sign for a Monteray Bay and thought to myself....."nahhhh!" Is it even open yet? I'd love to hear folks' reports. Pax, Brian
JLK Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 Where can I get a good falafel in the Tysons vicinity?
Pete Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 Where can I get a good falafel in the Tysons vicinity? Moby Dick in McLean might be your best option. Friends Kabob in Tyson's used to have falafel, but I don't recall seeing it on the menu last time I was in.
Kibbee Nayee Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 Where can I get a good falafel in the Tysons vicinity? Lebnan Zaman on Old Courthouse Rd.
Scott Johnston Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Tyson's Pho? That is right...where is a respectable Pho place in or near Tyson's. I have been driving to Sterling for Pho, but there must be somewhere closer. Any suggestions?
DanielK Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Tyson's Pho?That is right...where is a respectable Pho place in or near Tyson's. I have been driving to Sterling for Pho, but there must be somewhere closer. Any suggestions? Is Pho 75 in Falls Church too far? Once you're on 495, assuming traffic is moving, it's less than 10 minutes away...
Scott Johnston Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Getting Closer.... Closer... This is a better option than Sterling (20 Min away) Thanks. Is Pho 75 in Falls Church too far? Once you're on 495, assuming traffic is moving, it's less than 10 minutes away...
DanielK Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Getting Closer.... Closer... This is a better option than Sterling (20 Min away)Thanks. I suppose it depends on where in Tysons you are, since just getting out of that area can take 30 minutes.
Pete Posted February 8, 2008 Posted February 8, 2008 Tyson's Pho?That is right...where is a respectable Pho place in or near Tyson's. I have been driving to Sterling for Pho, but there must be somewhere closer. Any suggestions? I wish! We usually go to Pho Cyclo over in Merrifield, which is pretty good. It is in the same shopping plaza as Grevey's.
Kibbee Nayee Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 Not to chime in needlessly -- I have no knowledge of either one -- but I note that Maestro as well never really found an identity in the past year or so. A friend who is on the Board at the Tower Club told me in the recent past that Tysons is not prime territory for new restaurants right now. The combination of horrific traffic, exacerbated by the maddening construction associated with the express lanes on the Beltway and the impending expansion of the Metro, make Tysons a wasteland for new restaurant ventures. Another part of the problem is the domination of the lunch market by the expense accounts of the IT industry, who tend more towards the chains like The Palm and McCormick and Schmick's. Too bad for Tysons....maybe it's time for a Ray's the (Bar? Rent? Roof? Volume?) in Tysons. Are you there, Michael? Maestro's been closed for over a year. I guess I really didn't say it right, but I meant that the Maestro space just a block away from Inox and MBFG never found an identity....even the Gordon Ramsay rumors never materialized.
mdt Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 Not to chime in needlessly -- I have no knowledge of either one -- but I note that Maestro as well never really found an identity in the past year or so. A friend who is on the Board at the Tower Club told me in the recent past that Tysons is not prime territory for new restaurants right now. The combination of horrific traffic, exacerbated by the maddening construction associated with the express lanes on the Beltway and the impending expansion of the Metro, make Tysons a wasteland for new restaurant ventures. Another part of the problem is the domination of the lunch market by the expense accounts of the IT industry, who tend more towards the chains like The Palm and McCormick and Schmick's. Too bad for Tysons....maybe it's time for a Ray's the (Bar? Rent? Roof? Volume?) in Tysons. Are you there, Michael? I guess I really didn't say it right, but I meant that the Maestro space just a block away from Inox and MBFG never found an identity....even the Gordon Ramsay rumors never materialized. I am sure that things would have been different if Fabio did not leave.
zoramargolis Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 I am sure that things would have been different if Fabio did not leave. What about the buzz that went around earlier this past week that Michel Richard had finalized plans to take over the Maestro space? Any truth to that?
DonRocks Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 What about the buzz that went around earlier this past week that Michel Richard had finalized plans to take over the Maestro space? Any truth to that? Shhhh ... nothing is signed ... as of this moment ...
Sthitch Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 You have convinced me to stay away from the GAR group. Are there any good to excellent restaurants from Vienna to McLean? I seriously doubt it. As a pevious poster put it--I'm paraphrasing--lots of money, not much taste. Excellent? No, but Bazin’s on Church, Shamshiry, and Tachibana are all respectable restaurants.
Kibbee Nayee Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 Excellent? No, but Bazin’s on Church, Shamshiry, and Tachibana are all respectable restaurants. OK, now we're getting somewhere. I might add the Lebanese Taverna in Tysons 2, Cafe Renaissance in Vienna, and .... has anyone tried the new Equinox in the space that Colvin Run was once located across from Tyson 1 ... ?
Ericandblueboy Posted May 31, 2010 Posted May 31, 2010 You have convinced me to stay away from the GAR group. Are there any good to excellent restaurants from Vienna to McLean? I seriously doubt it. As a pevious poster put it--I'm paraphrasing--lots of money, not much taste. This is a really tired assertion. Where the heck are these great Springfield restaurants ? I'd love to find them. I've eaten at all the one's mentioned and can't put them above the GAR restaurants. I admit there aren't many great restaurants in McLean/Vienna but I still don't go to a GAR restaurant voluntarily. If I had to eat in the area, I would go to Woo Lae Oak, Evo Bistro, Capri, Kazan, Tachibana, Rose Cafe, Yoshi, and Plaka Grill. More importantly, it's not a long drive to DC. And there are solid restaurants in Annandale and Falls Church that are a short drive away.
wristband Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 I'll prob get bashed for this but Clyde's does a superior job featuring local produce and offering thoughtful but straightforward choices. Clyde's, at least for lunch, consistently pleases me. Coastal Flats and Leb. Taverna (in the Malls) - you have to be very selective when ordering b/c there are duds - can be quite good. I don't care for the bizzbuzzing enormity of both rooms. For ease of getting in/out and pleasant service, I also like Nortons next to Banana Republic. Its like a local version of Houlihans or Chadwicks but the food and pricing are easy on the palate and wallet should you be in the Mall. The Palm offers surprisingly good deals and far more modest pricing at lunch with a variety of choices apart from the retinue of steak.
Kibbee Nayee Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 I'll prob get bashed for this but Clyde's does a superior job featuring local produce and offering thoughtful but straightforward choices. Clyde's, at least for lunch, consistently pleases me. Coastal Flats and Leb. Taverna (in the Malls) - you have to be very selective when ordering b/c there are duds - can be quite good. I don't care for the bizzbuzzing enormity of both rooms. For ease of getting in/out and pleasant service, I also like Nortons next to Banana Republic. Its like a local version of Houlihans or Chadwicks but the food and pricing are easy on the palate and wallet should you be in the Mall. The Palm offers surprisingly good deals and far more modest pricing at lunch with a variety of choices apart from the retinue of steak. No bashing here. Clyde's actually has featured local produce every year I can remember. And you can order off the menu at any Clyde's. If the ingredients are in the kitchen, the kitchen staff has talent and the desire to make it for you. You'll never get that at GAR, unless you specify a dish that can be tossed together from handfuls of crap out of Sysco bags....
Pete Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Opening in the spot once occupied by Maestro and Michel. Jose Andres to revive America Eats in Tysons
DonRocks Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Opening in the spot once occupied by Maestro and Michel. Jose Andres to revive America Eats in Tysons [Oh, Tim, you should have waited until *July* 4th to publish this. I guess I'll shave off the old America Eats Tavern posts from the Cafe Atlantico thread, and merge the two - it just wouldn't make any sense to co-mingle Cafe Atlantico posts with Tysons Corner America Eats posts. The one thing this restaurant has going for it that neither Inox nor Michel had: sufficient time to weather the recession and construction ... maybe.]
Kibbee Nayee Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Way to go, Jose Andres. I'll peg the over-under at 18 months, and I might be inclined to take the over....
RWBooneJr Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 And, to The Hersch or anyone else with an interest in local cartography, does anyone know why Tysons Corner isn't called Tyson's Corner? I don't think I've ever seen it written with an apostrophe. It's the same reason that Prince George's County used to be Prince Georges County: USPS. The local post office is "Tysons Corner" because USPS formerly had a habit of eliminating the apostrophe from place names. I have always assumed that it had to do with their systems, which historically have had trouble with apostrophes. I also eliminated them from the place names in DCDiningGuide because they were a PITA (SQL hates them).
Joe H Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 I read somewhere that it is now projected for a May opening. Also, the two restaurants in the adjacent office building, Inox and Monterey Bay, have now been replaced with something called Convene which is a conference facility. I find it extremely interesting that two such high profile restaurants could not be replaced especially with this being the closest building to the Metro on the Galleria side. 2
DaveO Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 My 'concern' is that the line between the Tyson's Corner/Galleria station passes directly (or almost directly) underneath the restaurant. I doubt it'll be going very fast in that underground stretch, but any time you hollow out a space under or near an existing structure then run a 6-8 car train through it, with each car weighing roughly 80-90,000lbs...you're going to get some vibration. I'm not an engineer, though. But yes, in five years' time, Tyson's will be a city unto itself. And I think they're trying to do too much with the Silver Line. It's a *branch* line that terminates at West Falls Church, and potentially will 'serve' up to a half a million people. Looking at this, it seems they purposefully 'bowed out' around the cluster of hotels, but I doubt that was out of concern for the businesses and *more* out of concern for the sort-of-but-not-really abandoned Site R relay station/tower. Destruya: Those 4 stops in Tysons are exactly where they were planned to be 12 or so years ago when I worked on that project. The locations were there before I got on board. I have no idea exactly why or how those locations got chosen. I do know the locations were a function of engineering, land availability, functionalness with the areas, and other concerns. I suspect a lot of issues were weighed in choosing exactly where the stations are. I'm not an engineer either but a lot of them worked on this project including people with vast experience on the construction of subways across the country over the decades. If you think about it though, metro rolls beneath much of dc, including under a lot of buildings. In fact at least one in DC (at Conn and L) doesn't have underground parking b/c metro is directly below it. I never felt a rumble on the lowest level.
DonRocks Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 If you think about it though, metro rolls beneath much of dc, including under a lot of buildings. In fact at least one in DC (at Conn and L) doesn't have underground parking b/c metro is directly below it. I never felt a rumble on the lowest level. There's much less "rattle and squeak" with Metro than there is with the NYC Subway. That's probably because the cars are never running, but that's a separate issue.
Joe H Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 That statement startled me. I don't believe that sites along Metro suffer from this at all. Then I went to volumes of reviews for Da Dominico or the Clydes of Reston and scanned them. There were no references to the sense of a mini earthquake from any review. There are metro's running under buildings all over the region and especially downtown. I don't believe there is an issue. But in that search I saw the following reference for new high rise development on the Clyde's Tysons site and some nearby smaller properties. Up to 2 million square feet of development and up to 36 stories high!!!!! Zounds!! This was just approved this past Autumn by Fairfax County. Here is my little "connection" to that story. Back around 2000 I left the commercial real estate business and didn't know how I was going to spend time. I was recruited by a civil engineering group that was working on the Environmental Impact Analysis for the proposed metro extension to Tysons, Reston, National Airport, and beyond....and also worked on similar analyses for other proposed transit projects. Part of the approval process hinged on the proposed volumes of ridership for these projects. That in turn relied on traffic estimates based on density of development around the sites. That is where I came in. I was part of a group with planners from Fairfax County. We looked at every parcel of ground in the proposed stops and estimated future development. Then that information went to the transportation planners that used a formula to estimate ridership. A lot of number crunching and usage of advanced tested formulas for estimating transit ridership. Its all estimates. Who knows how it will play out. From my recollection though, when we looked at the Clydes' site and others near it we never assumed that much development density and heights of buildings. Of course if and when this gets built is anyone's guess. It depends on market conditions, financing, etc etc etc. It could take decades. The Clydes site is very close to one of the metro stops though, so it might get into the ground sooner than others that will change the skyline of Tysons, and probably take an already miserable traffic experience and make it far worse. I don't know if Da Dominico is part of this proposed development or not...or will be part of some other planned super structure....but I doubt it will feel the effects of metro's rumbling underneath and nearby. An outtanding website that someone has done a great deal of research and work to support: http://thetysonscorner.com/ FWIW: Capitol One, as I type this, is going for Fairfax County approval for a 450' tall building (40 or so stories). Another building in Tyson has been proposed for 45 floors. A thirty story apartment building (next to the 22 story Tysons Tower) is under construction. Across the street cranes are now up for a 27 story apartment building immediately adjacent to Lerner's 18 story office building which now has a crane being erected for it. A webcam for it: http://oxblue.com/open/1775TysonsBoulevard and a webcam for Tysons Tower and the adjacent 30 story apartment building: http://www.tysonstower.com/construction-camera/ Tysons already has more office space than downtown Baltimore or Richmond. In a few years it will have more than both combined. And, by the way, a 425' tall building may be built where Clyde's is today.
Joe H Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Joe: that top website is very interesting. The proposed height of buildings at what is called the greensboro station are truly stunning. From my time working at this project and in conjunction with Fairfax County Planners, I don't recall that level of density, heights, etc. That is extraordinarily urban!!!! As much as all this is planned or approved who knows how long it could take for development. Development over the very long term is very jagged. It occurs in fits and stops. Tysons has a lot of office space. It has more office space than most known cities. Its spread over a lot of acres though and a sizable amount is low rise. But to bring it all back to Da Dominico and Clydes....I don't know if Da Dominico is part of the proposed Clydes site or not...but if not...its owners probably have a high rise in mind also. One last old real estate reference. In the early 80's I sold land across from Mazza Gallerie for development. The Clydes team owned one of the parcels. In retrospect it was fascinating to speak with them. They had these parcels of land in various areas around the region. It was way before they had restaurants in those areas. Their partnership had the foresight and money to get involved in areas where they ultimately placed some restaurants. Our clients built one of those projects but they didn't buy the small Clydes parcel. It was too pricey. This is an interesting topic for me since I sat in the Wendy's on route 7 a couple of months ago and looked out the window from time to time for 20 or 30 minutes. I didn't see a single person walking down Leesburg Pike. Today, I sat at the traffic light by Leesburg Pike and the new Wal Mart and wondered how anyone could/would walk across this if they weren't using the Metro. My point is that Leesburg Pike is so wide and so pedestrain unfriendly that even with dense development over the next 10 or 15 years I still don't see this having a city like ambience. Rather, I see "islands" of development which the author of the Tysons website mentions with connectivity between them. I do see Tyson Corner Center and the four phases surrounding that having a kind of downtown ambience. And, on Lerner's property across the street. But somehow walking across 7 or 123 is not like walking across Wilson boulevard and Wisconsin Avenue. I can also imagine trying to lease a 500,000 square foot office building such as the Tysons Tower or the new Lerner building where the crane is being erected. But, let's go 35 floors. Or 40 floors (450+'). Leasing this is another matter. Am I correct that the new "tallest building" in Rosslyn is 100% empty? And, it's finished. The amount of development is stunning which is proposed for Tysons. Similarly the amount proposed for Reston Town Center which already has 4 million square feet in the immediate Town Center and well over ten million at buildout. On the other hand an elementary school behind our house has trailers with 24 classrooms because they have to increase it's size by a third. Similar to the adjacent middle school and South Lakes high school which completed a $42 million dollar renovation now has a $15 million dollar expansion planned for 2016. Absolutely no idea where they would build a new school in Tysons. Or in Reston. Anyway, the growth is exciting. But there is a price. I can't help but wonder if Fairfax county isn't overdoing some of this without realizing the consequences of some of their decisions. The infrastructure just isn't there to support a lot of this. It would seem that the developers, understandably, are going for project approvals now when there is a "window." Realization of this, if at all, could be decades down the road. I would prefer Fairfax to wait and do this incrimentally to fully understand what they have approved. Really interesting that they have approved so much more from when you were involved. Last, I drove a cab through college in Bethesda in the '60's and early '70's and remember when a colonial house with a two car garage was $100,000 on/off Seven Locks road. That was pricey then, too. I wonder what multiple the land underneath Clyde's is worth today vs. the early '80's?
Destruya Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 This is an interesting topic for me since I sat in the Wendy's on route 7 a couple of months ago and looked out the window from time to time for 20 or 30 minutes. I didn't see a single person walking down Leesburg Pike. Today, I sat at the traffic light by Leesburg Pike and the new Wal Mart and wondered how anyone could/would walk across this if they weren't using the Metro. My point is that Leesburg Pike is so wide and so pedestrain unfriendly that even with dense development over the next 10 or 15 years I still don't see this having a city like ambience. Rather, I see "islands" of development which the author of the Tysons website mentions with connectivity between them. I do see Tyson Corner Center and the four phases surrounding that having a kind of downtown ambience. And, on Lerner's property across the street. I think that's the ~master plan~ of the Tyson's Metro to make money during the non-rush times. Getting people within walking distance of the stations to hop onto the trains and go 1-2 stops locally to get to the mall or someplace else for lunch. I also noticed that the building they've been working on directly behind Tysons I on Chain Bridge looks like it's taller than the Ritz now. That being said, I just found this image of where that 425ft building is supposedly going: http://greatergreater.com/images/201305/071125.jpg The only building that seems to be immediately on the chopping block is the Westpark Hotel, and good riddance, honestly.
Joe H Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I think the Ritz is +/- 252'. I looked for the height of the 22 floor Tysons Tower and the adjacent 30 floor apartment project (which as I type this still has another 13 floors to climb) but cannot find the height anywhere. I believe the Rosslyn building will still be the tallest in the D. C. area and the 30 story Tysons apartment building will be second. A bs guess on my part would be 325 to 350' for the apartment building. I believe it will top out about 30' taller than the Tysons Tower. There is going to be a real "downtown" feeling to this area at buildout. On the Tysons Corner Center side there will be 22, 30 and 26 (phase two) floor buildings. Directly across 123 will be another 30 story building along with one in the mid 20's. Now leasing all of this is another matter. I believe the Tysons Tower is 2/3 leased but Lerner still doesn't have a tenant for its 18 story building which is spec. At some point we should discuss restaurants in this immediate area since Monterey Bay is gone, Inox is gone, Michel's is gone and both Tysons Tower and the new 18 floor Lerner building are advertising fine dining restaurants. Can Tyson's handle another steak house? Another Joe's Stone Crab? Totally agree about the Westpark hotel.
DaveO Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 This is an interesting topic for me since I sat in the Wendy's on route 7 a couple of months ago and looked out the window from time to time for 20 or 30 minutes. I didn't see a single person walking down Leesburg Pike. Today, I sat at the traffic light by Leesburg Pike and the new Wal Mart and wondered how anyone could/would walk across this if they weren't using the Metro. My point is that Leesburg Pike is so wide and so pedestrain unfriendly that even with dense development over the next 10 or 15 years I still don't see this having a city like ambience. Rather, I see "islands" of development which the author of the Tysons website mentions with connectivity between them. I do see Tyson Corner Center and the four phases surrounding that having a kind of downtown ambience. And, on Lerner's property across the street. But somehow walking across 7 or 123 is not like walking across Wilson boulevard and Wisconsin Avenue. I can also imagine trying to lease a 500,000 square foot office building such as the Tysons Tower or the new Lerner building where the crane is being erected. But, let's go 35 floors. Or 40 floors (450+'). Leasing this is another matter. Am I correct that the new "tallest building" in Rosslyn is 100% empty? And, it's finished. The amount of development is stunning which is proposed for Tysons. Similarly the amount proposed for Reston Town Center which already has 4 million square feet in the immediate Town Center and well over ten million at buildout. On the other hand an elementary school behind our house has trailers with 24 classrooms because they have to increase it's size by a third. Similar to the adjacent middle school and South Lakes high school which completed a $42 million dollar renovation now has a $15 million dollar expansion planned for 2016. Absolutely no idea where they would build a new school in Tysons. Or in Reston. Anyway, the growth is exciting. But there is a price. I can't help but wonder if Fairfax county isn't overdoing some of this without realizing the consequences of some of their decisions. The infrastructure just isn't there to support a lot of this. It would seem that the developers, understandably, are going for project approvals now when there is a "window." Realization of this, if at all, could be decades down the road. I would prefer Fairfax to wait and do this incrimentally to fully understand what they have approved. Really interesting that they have approved so much more from when you were involved. Last, I drove a cab through college in Bethesda in the '60's and early '70's and remember when a colonial house with a two car garage was $100,000 on/off Seven Locks road. That was pricey then, too. I wonder what multiple the land underneath Clyde's is worth today vs. the early '80's? I don't have facts on that but can only venture a guess. I'd bet there is old data that gives comps for sales of land somewhat similar, with similar zoning and prices....although that particular property, while having somewhat weird access is sort of at the epicenter of Tysons. I'd guess its value back then was about $15-30 a buildable foot of commercial construction but at that time they could build less than 1 foot of building to land. Now the base price would be some multiple of that guesstimate of the original price. More impactful though would be the fact that it was upzoned to accommodate an enormous high rise. The increase in value, in my estimate, would be truly enormous, significantly impacted by the change in zoning. I think the Ritz is +/- 252'. I looked for the height of the 22 floor Tysons Tower and the adjacent 30 floor apartment project (which as I type this still has another 13 floors to climb) but cannot find the height anywhere. I believe the Rosslyn building will still be the tallest in the D. C. area and the 30 story Tysons apartment building will be second. A bs guess on my part would be 325 to 350' for the apartment building. I believe it will top out about 30' taller than the Tysons Tower. There is going to be a real "downtown" feeling to this area at buildout. On the Tysons Corner Center side there will be 22, 30 and 26 (phase two) floor buildings. Directly across 123 will be another 30 story building along with one in the mid 20's. Now leasing all of this is another matter. I believe the Tysons Tower is 2/3 leased but Lerner still doesn't have a tenant for its 18 story building which is spec. At some point we should discuss restaurants in this immediate area since Monterey Bay is gone, Inox is gone, Michel's is gone and both Tysons Tower and the new 18 floor Lerner building are advertising fine dining restaurants. Can Tyson's handle another steak house? Another Joe's Stone Crab? Totally agree about the Westpark hotel. I'm not the restaurant fan or historian or as knowledgeable as are you guys. I mostly related high end dining in Tysons to steak places, of which there have been many, and still are. If they do manage to build a lot of high rise residential, both owned and rental, and at high prices I'm sure the area will attract a wider variety of better places to dine. Meanwhile hasn't Silver Diner been a go-to place for early morning eat and business meetings? If and when they do get more restaurants and of higher quality I do hope it dramatically expands outside of the steak house theme.
MsDiPesto Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 That Clyde's in Tyson's is close to the highest point in FFX county, where the Communications Tower sits. I was searching around the net one day and found an amusing story about the subway construction. I can't vouch for it's veracity. It seems that the subway constructors were digging and broke a cable. The cable wasn't on any of their utility maps. A few minutes later, a bunch of black SUVs pulled up and guys in suits got out. "Hey, you broke our cable!" Later, an AT&T crew showed up and fixed the cable. The contractor got a bill from AT&T, which they returned without paying since they had no way of knowing the cable was there. That was it, they never got a follow up bill. Must have been the Army Signal Corps. Yeah, that's it.... 1
Destruya Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 That Clyde's in Tyson's is close to the highest point in FFX county, where the Communications Tower sits. I was searching around the net one day and found an amusing story about the subway construction. I can't vouch for it's veracity. It seems that the subway constructors were digging and broke a cable. The cable wasn't on any of their utility maps. A few minutes later, a bunch of black SUVs pulled up and guys in suits got out. "Hey, you broke our cable!" Later, an AT&T crew showed up and fixed the cable. The contractor got a bill from AT&T, which they returned without paying since they had no way of knowing the cable was there. That was it, they never got a follow up bill. Must have been the Army Signal Corps. Yeah, that's it.... The entire reason that the Silver Line is above ground is that Tyson's Corner is a hotbed of think tank offices that have secured fiber connections to Langley. They would've had to have dug the Silver Line so deep that escalators wouldn't be feasible, like the Forest Glen station, where you can only use elevators because it's 196 feet below ground. The building directly next to where Nostos is used to house MAE-East, which in the early-to-mid 90s more or less handled 80% of the internet's traffic (that passed through the US) at any given time. It's also not the first time some unlucky construction crew in or around Tyson's has gotten a visit from those black SUVs. There's also a reason that SAIC is CIAS spelled backwards. Operation ORTSAC, anyone? I mean seriously, a 4-8+ billion dollar company, and *this* is their Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_Applications_International_Corporation Have you ever seen a sparser corporate Wiki page? 2
lion Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Driving back from DC at night, I'm simply amazed by the Tysons Corner Skyline from the Rte66 and 267 Toll Road inter-connector. The lights convey a size of a pretty large city in the midwest in scope and not something just 15 miles away from DC. As for dining options, I'm slightly pessimistic about an increase of quality occurring with the development. People don't seem to want high quality food other than Steakhouses or Italian in the area.
DaveO Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 The entire reason that the Silver Line is above ground is that Tyson's Corner is a hotbed of think tank offices that have secured fiber connections to Langley. They would've had to have dug the Silver Line so deep that escalators wouldn't be feasible, like the Forest Glen station, where you can only use elevators because it's 196 feet below ground. The building directly next to where Nostos is used to house MAE-East, which in the early-to-mid 90s more or less handled 80% of the internet's traffic at any given time. It's also not the first time some unlucky construction crew in or around Tyson's has gotten a visit from those black SUVs. There's also a reason that SAIC is CIAS spelled backwards. Operation ORTSAC, anyone? I mean, seriously, a 4-8+ billion dollar company, and *this* is their Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_Applications_International_Corporation Have you ever seen a sparser corporate Wiki page? I don't thing that is accurate. When I was involved in this project it was before 9/11. It was already planned to be mostly above ground (except for some stops like in Tysons). It is immeasurably less expensive to build above ground than below ground. I think that could be deciphered at some point in the last decade when there were battles about finally going ahead and who and how this entire project was going to get paid for, with federal, state, and local monies. One of the issues that arose was how expensive it was to build underground into Dulles Airport, for a stop that would be significantly closer to the entries to the airport versus a stop that was somewhat removed from the gates, and would require a walk or an intermediate trolley or some other kind of transport. That last mile or two, (or less) and primarily going underground is a huge huge expense.
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