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#1 Scott Johnston

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 02:28 PM

OK, This was part of a discussion at Dino's last night. Who has the best Peking Duck? Somehow we ruled out Mark's Duck House and Peking Gourmet. Please someone weigh in.... I am in search for a duck fix!

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 03:05 PM

There used to be a place in Chinatown that had a creditable duck, but I can't recall the name. Anyone else remember?

It's probably gone now anyway.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 03:26 PM

I think Marks has a great roast duck and go there quite often for that and the roast pig. I have also had a very respectable peking duck at Jasmine in Falls Church(in the yorktowne center,rt.50 and gallows rd.). Another thing about Jasmine is the chef makes his own noodles for Chow Foon which I love. Being a Chef that makes his own pasta I am always I-S-O a place that does so as well. :)
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Posted 25 October 2006 - 03:27 PM

OK, This was part of a discussion at Dino's last night. Who has the best Peking Duck? Somehow we ruled out Mark's Duck House and Peking Gourmet. Please someone weigh in.... I am in search for a duck fix!

maybe this was the reason behind your conversation but the best peking duck used to be at Dino's, when it was Yanyu - I think they still may make it at Spices

I misss Yanyu - I ate there 4 or 5 times and rarely was anything less than delicious

Theres a place in Van Ness that always has some kid of peking duck promo going on

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 04:08 PM

maybe this was the reason behind your conversation but the best peking duck used to be at Dino's, when it was Yanyu - I think they still may make it at Spices

I misss Yanyu - I ate there 4 or 5 times and rarely was anything less than delicious

Theres a place in Van Ness that always has some kid of peking duck promo going on

shanghai garden (4469 connecticut) is the promo peking duck place. i haven't been back since moving out of the neighborhood four or five years ago, but learned to appreciate it as the best restaurant around van ness at the time, not that there was much competition, and not that the duck was as good as at yanyu. the duck was just as good, maybe even better, when it moved to spices, but i haven't kept up with them. these days we just use spices for deliveries of soups and ginger salad. (in its final weeks and months, yanyu seemed to really empty out and the cooking could be down.)

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 04:25 PM

OK, This was part of a discussion at Dino's last night. Who has the best Peking Duck? Somehow we ruled out Mark's Duck House and Peking Gourmet. Please someone weigh in.... I am in search for a duck fix!

Believe it or not, the old Honolulu did a great Peking Duck. We'd have to call ahead of time to have them reserve one for us otherwise they'd usually be out of them by the time we got there. But after 2 or 3 of their drinks, who cared..... :)
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Posted 25 October 2006 - 06:02 PM

shanghai garden (4469 connecticut) is the promo peking duck place. i haven't been back since moving out of the neighborhood four or five years ago, but learned to appreciate it as the best restaurant around van ness at the time, not that there was much competition, and not that the duck was as good as at yanyu. the duck was just as good, maybe even better, when it moved to spices, but i haven't kept up with them. these days we just use spices for deliveries of soups and ginger salad. (in its final weeks and months, yanyu seemed to really empty out and the cooking could be down.)

Is that the place that has the yellow duck sign out in front? If it is, I think that it has been there for almost forty years.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 06:25 PM

Is that the place that has the yellow duck sign out in front? If it is, I think that it has been there for almost forty years.

I'm having trouble picturing the color right now, but it's by Delhi Dhaba and the Back Store, etc.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 06:34 PM

I'm having trouble picturing the color right now, but it's by Delhi Dhaba and the Back Store, etc.

I'll date myself and tell you that it used to be just down the street from Hahn's Shoes, and across from an appliance repair shop and motel. There was nothing built yet on the west side of Connecticut at the corner of Van Ness, that land being occupied by the National Bureau of Standards. Still, the only other dining option that I can remember was the Royal Warrant, where the pours were legendary.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 07:25 PM

the place in Chinatown was Eat First, and since the close and reopening, the duck is not as good, and even then it's for Cantonese Roast Duck and not Peking Duck.

Duck Chang's (John Marr Drive in Annandale) used to have excellent Peking Duck and was one of the first in the DC area to have it in the 70's.... but it's been years since I've been there. They used to serve duck 3-ways.. first the Peking Duck... then they'd use the duck meat in noodles, and then use the carcass for duck soup.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 07:35 PM

...duck 3-ways.. first the Peking Duck... then they'd use the duck meat in noodles, and then use the carcass for duck soup.

Yes, yes, that's what we want! Just a more recent rec from somewhere...

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 04:32 AM

the place in Chinatown was Eat First, and since the close and reopening, the duck is not as good, and even then it's for Cantonese Roast Duck and not Peking Duck.

Thank you, yes it was Eat First. We went all the time when it was on 7th, then it closed and moved after we left the city. Sorry to hear the duck is not as good now.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 05:08 AM

What's wrong with Peking Gourmet? I'm no freaking peking duck expert, but I thought it was pretty good the times I've had it.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:14 AM

Is that Yeaching Place or something like that?

I'm having trouble picturing the color right now, but it's by Delhi Dhaba and the Back Store, etc.


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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:00 AM

There are just too many Chinese restaurants in the area to know who has the best. Since I don't go to the ones in VA or DC (I live in MD) I have to say that the Peking duck at Hunan Manor in Olney is quite good.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:11 AM

I'm with Al. The separately (and perfectly) carved skin, the carcass lovingly preserved for hot-sour soup stock and meat, etc, etc.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:19 AM

Is that Yeaching Place or something like that?

not yenching palace, which is wacky chinese and on the opposite side of connecticut, across from palena, and worth a trip for neon huggers. the place i am talking about is two blocks north of van ness, in the same block as liliana, which i guess had to shutter after serving too much burnt fish. however, i said it was the promo duck place, not primo. it is a family business, but i know nothing about its genealogy.

we repair to yenching palace every once in a blue moon. it has lots of possibilities, not that it lived up to any of them the last time we were there. spices is in the post this morning with a depiction of duck, by the way.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 07:50 AM

not yenching palace, which is wacky chinese and on the opposite side of connecticut, across from palena, and worth a trip for neon huggers. the place i am talking about is two blocks north of van ness, in the same block as liliana, which i guess had to shutter after serving too much burnt fish. however, i said it was the promo duck place, not primo. it is a family business, but i know nothing about its genealogy.

we repair to yenching palace every once in a blue moon. it has lots of possibilities, not that it lived up to any of them the last time we were there. spices is in the post this morning with a depiction of duck, by the way.

Yes it is called Shanghai Garden. They still have the duck special. I think Uptown Cathay *snicker* may have a special too.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 08:09 AM

Recap:

Virginia
Mark’s Duck House – Falls Church http://www.marksduckhouse.com/
Peking Gourmet – Falls Church http://www.pekinggourmet.com/
Jasmine Garden – Falls Church http://www.jasminegardenva.com/
Duck Chang’s – Annandale http://www.duckchangs.com/

DC
Spices http://www.spicesdc.com/
Shanghai Garden

Maryland
Hunan Manor - Olney

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 08:21 AM

Definitely Duck Chang's! Yes it's in Annandale in a little strip mall but their food is fantastic and the owners are just wonderful people. Peking Duck there is amazing. My parents have been living in Hong Kong for the last 3 years and whenever they come home to visit they insist on hitting Duck Chang's for Peking Duck.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 09:24 AM

Put my vote in for "The Big Duck" formerly at Yanyu and now at Spices. I do miss Yanyu.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 10:21 AM

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:43 AM

The following posts have been split into separate threads:

Mark's Duck House (mdt)

And Rocks seems to have thrown his vote in for Mark's as well over in his Lettres...

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:52 AM

I'm just curious - what does everyone look for in a good Peking Duck? Personally I think that Peking Duck is one of those dishes where even when it's bad it's still good.
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 12:05 PM

I'm just curious - what does everyone look for in a good Peking Duck? Personally I think that Peking Duck is one of those dishes where even when it's bad it's still good.

I can't entirely argue with that sentiment. Though I've had some bad ones before - burned skin comes to mind. The place we get it most often is Peking Cheers, in Gaithersburg. It's a nondescript, inoffensive, mostly Americanized chinese restaurant that I wouldn't go to normally except for one reason: a whole Peking Duck is $10.95.

That's not a typo. $10.95 for an entire duck. It's not carved tableside unless they're not busy, it's not the best duck I've ever had, and they don't do the 3-course preparation, but it's ten freaking dollars. Less than what most places charge for a HALF duck.

What makes GREAT Peking Duck to me?
  • Carved tableside
  • Crispy, evenly browned skin
  • Pancakes that don't suck
  • The "three course" preparation, where they take the duck back after carving the skin, and serve the meat in another dish (usually with noodles?), and the carcass in a soup
If they're not going to do the 3-course, at least leave the freaking duck on the table. I went to one place where they charged $28 for the bird, carved the skin at the table, and tried to take the rest of the duck back for who knows what. Screw you - give me my goddamned carcass!

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 12:12 PM

Screw you - give me my goddamned carcass!

I don't even know where to begin...this is a definite keeper. :)

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 12:18 PM

I don't even know where to begin...this is a definite keeper. :)

I think we took it home and tried to make soup, but my recollection is that it came out too oily.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 06:03 PM

Just remembered another place: Oriental Regency in Tysons Corner... it's right by the Sheraton off Rt 7, near the interchange w/ the toll road. They carve tableside... and the skin is nice and crispy. But again, a few years since I've been there (but at least this century I was there - it's been at least the last century since I'd been to Duck Chang's).

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:29 PM

Just remembered another place: Oriental Regency in Tysons Corner... it's right by the Sheraton off Rt 7, near the interchange w/ the toll road. They carve tableside... and the skin is nice and crispy. But again, a few years since I've been there (but at least this century I was there - it's been at least the last century since I'd been to Duck Chang's).

Wow - Oriental Regency is a name from the past. My parents used to take us there back in the early 90's for Peking Duck. I do remember the tableside carving, and it was quite good back then - succulent and moist meat, crispy skin without a smidgen of visible fat remaining. I wonder if it's any good now? For those that want to venture there for a try, it's right across from Shamshiry on Rte 7.
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 06:09 AM

LOL, They are my current dealer for my duck fixes...best is they deliver too! Now owned by a Korean couple, I think they are the best Tyson's has to offer (but they are no Peter Chang)

OK, looks like I have to get duck for lunch!

Just remembered another place: Oriental Regency in Tysons Corner... it's right by the Sheraton off Rt 7, near the interchange w/ the toll road. They carve tableside... and the skin is nice and crispy. But again, a few years since I've been there (but at least this century I was there - it's been at least the last century since I'd been to Duck Chang's).


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Posted 30 October 2006 - 02:48 PM

I'll add in my two cents and say that the Big Duck at Spices is the best in DC. You can get it as a half order - perfect for one or a whole. It is the same recipe as Yanyu. Also, they will happily give you the carcass if you ask. I also think they have the best plum sauce around to go with it.

As for the Peking Cheers in Gaithersburg, I have been many times with family that lives nearby. It is ok, definitely worth the discount price, but not worth a trip just to get cheaper duck. Read - Spice's Big Duck kicks its ass.

I guess I'll have to get myself to Virgina and try Mark's sometime. I still have trouble getting over the river though. I guess it is my Marylander bias ;-)

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 07:35 PM

I had the roast duck during dim sum at Tony Cheng's in Chinatown this weekend. It was pretty good. Does a good roast duck a good Peking duck make?
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Posted 19 November 2006 - 07:41 PM

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 08:21 PM

Fwiw, I tried the peking duck at Nooshi tonight since I was stuck in the office for most of the evening, and I generally enjoy most of their stuff.

It's bad (dry meat, pancakes and scallions were useless). And it's $13.75 after tax for half a duck. I've never had any of the ones outside of the city, but now I think I need to make a field trip to one of the aforementioned ones.
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Posted 23 February 2007 - 10:44 AM

Fwiw, I tried the peking duck at Nooshi tonight since I was stuck in the office for most of the evening, and I generally enjoy most of their stuff.

It's bad (dry meat, pancakes and scallions were useless). And it's $13.75 after tax for half a duck. I've never had any of the ones outside of the city, but now I think I need to make a field trip to one of the aforementioned ones.

That is a shame, because Nooshi's sister restaurant, Spices in Cleveland Park has one of the best peking ducks as a holdover from its now-gone upscale sister Yanyu. Give it a try it is listed as the "Big Duck" - $15 for half or $30 for whole and I think worth it.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 03:32 PM

Went to Meiwah downtown for the first time last week in a large group that was duck crazy. For 10 folks we had 3 "Beijing Ducks" which were rather tasty at this otherwise pretty normal chinese place. The ducks were expensive around $30, but carved nicely (I didn't try to get the carcass in this big a group though so can't answer that question) and juicy with crisp skin like one wants. The plum sauce was nothing special - unlike the my favorite at Spices, but the nice change of pace was the pancakes which were larger (almost double in size) and slightly thicker than usual. Having a bigger, thicker pancake was great to avoid the typical rips and tears and made it easier to eat more of the duck wrapped in pancakes without having to order extra. So while I wouldn't go out of my way to get this duck, if you are in the area, I'd recommend it.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 04:17 PM

Went to Meiwah downtown for the first time last week in a large group that was duck crazy. For 10 folks we had 3 "Beijing Ducks" which were rather tasty at this otherwise pretty normal chinese place. The ducks were expensive around $30, but carved nicely (I didn't try to get the carcass in this big a group though so can't answer that question) and juicy with crisp skin like one wants. The plum sauce was nothing special - unlike the my favorite at Spices, but the nice change of pace was the pancakes which were larger (almost double in size) and slightly thicker than usual. Having a bigger, thicker pancake was great to avoid the typical rips and tears and made it easier to eat more of the duck wrapped in pancakes without having to order extra. So while I wouldn't go out of my way to get this duck, if you are in the area, I'd recommend it.

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 12:16 PM

Alas the Oriental Regency in Tyson's is no more, then again, Peking Duck is off my current roatations as well!

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