DonRocks Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 The October 19th chat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelGold Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Fess up people, there were several "snarky" posts today...who submitted some of the more interesting quibs from today's chat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm chen Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Tell me nobody here was responsible for copying an entire page out of the New Yorker and getting Tom to post it; that was a new lowlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Gastreaux Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Tell me nobody here was responsible for copying an entire page out of the New Yorker and getting Tom to post it; that was a new lowlight. It's also copyright infringement likely to get Tom (or his producer) into trouble with management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banco Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) What got my goat was the pedantic post about "Asian" as a term used to describe cuisine. Is there no area of human activity immune to this kind of PC claptrap? Edited October 19, 2005 by Banco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 The October 26th chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral Stairs Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Do you think that one maximizes one's odds of getting a question answered by submitting the question in advance, or submitting the question during the chat? It's been my limited experience that ones submitted during the chat are more likely to be answered. I suspect he sits down at the computer a minute before the chat begins, sees about 100 pre-submitted questions, says, "Oh criminy, what a bunch of losers, who have actually spent time earlier in the week drafting questions for me," and then never even reads them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banco Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I can't believe TS put in a good word for Cafe Berlin. In my several hopeful forays there, it has never failed to prove itself one of the worst restaurants in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 mmmmmmmmm..... Bavarian Chef! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedE Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Following the post about whether Tom would consider publishing a list of restaurants to avoid, I like the fact that he proceeded to pull out the knives on Nora and TenPenh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hersch Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 mmmmmmmmm.....Bavarian Chef! Are you saying that this place really is worth the journey? On the basis of the perennial Washingtonian listing (foolish, I know) I went to the Würzburg Haus a couple of years ago, and that wasn't even worth the journey to Rockville. Bavarian Chef is the real deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Are you saying that this place really is worth the journey? On the basis of the perennial Washingtonian listing (foolish, I know) I went to the Würzburg Haus a couple of years ago, and that wasn't even worth the journey to Rockville. Bavarian Chef is the real deal? I wouldn't call it a destination restaurant. I stop by about once a year because I drive by there every couple of months. It's good brauhaus food and beer. If you're hitting Charlottesville or the vineyards or going leaf peeping or antique hunting or whatever stop in and have a good meal. I'd make a special trip (about 1.75 hours from DC) only if I was really really jonesing for German food. Which I kind of am right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyy Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I hate to make my first post on this board a curmudgeonly one (hi all!), but is Tom's writing style starting to get to anyone else? Much of it is fine, but, WOW--his modifiers are starting to make it to trash-novel extremes. "Fattened" "Flecked" "Brightened" "Draped" I'm as much for painting a picture as the next gal, but gracious. Is he not aware that sometimes you CAN just use the word "sauce"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLK Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Tom also loves the word "haunting." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 (edited) Tom also loves the word "haunting." at least he hasn't killed the word "revelation" yet like his predecessor did (though to be fair, I really enjoy her writing). Edited October 26, 2005 by porcupine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Slater Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 (edited) For some reason I can't stand "tuck into" and "napped". Also, the one word that NO food writer should ever use under any circumstance: "scrumptious" or its sibling "scrum-diddly-umptious" . I hate that word! Edited October 27, 2005 by Mark Slater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaghan Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I can't stand anything "-fisted". I'm tired of cooking and fists. Use "pawed" or "clawed" instead of "fisted" or "handed"... "....the classic Silk Road dumpling that suggests a ham-fisted adaptation of delicate Chinese wontons..." -Robert Sietsema February 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shogun Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 (edited) For some reason I can't stand "tuck into" and "lapped" and "napped". Also, the one word that NO food writer should ever use under any circumstance: "scrumptious". I hate that word! "To boot". Hear it a lot, actually."I've got some scrumptious dishes lined up that are quick and easy to prepare, while being tasty to boot! We're cookin' for bulimics today on The Food Network!" Meaghan: I can tolerate 'ham-fisted' as long as it is paired with 'yahoo-assed'. Tourists come to these-and-other nationally publicized "landmark" restaurants and expect something glorious. They often get an over-salted, ill-seasoned, gummily-sauced ham-fisted yahoo-assed meal, then walk out of the restaurant wondering what they don't understand, and then they remember that simple little teahouse in Greenwich Village that they enjoyed so much more.Edited because I found the quote! Fun factoid: A search for 'yahoo-assed' on eGullet turns up 30 pages of results. Edited October 26, 2005 by shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackers Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I can't stand anything "-fisted". I'm tired of cooking and fists. Use "pawed" or "clawed" instead of "fisted" or "handed"... "....the classic Silk Road dumpling that suggests a ham-fisted adaptation of delicate Chinese wontons..." -Robert Sietsema February 2001 uh oh... "The food here is good, but not elegant or fine - very satisfying in a hamfisted way." - DonRocks October, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 uh oh... Are we now saying that Don and Robert Sietsema are the same person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giant shrimp Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 i found tom's chat especially intriguing this week. at one point he refers to a hitchcockian persona, confides that he felt like a thief even though the incident only involved swapped umbrellas, reveals a year-long assignment in germany, lapses into the mother tongue and professes amazement that a belgian chef has been allowed to continue poisoning his patrons with asparagus ice cream. restaurants are frozen in amber, shadows of their former selves and even have secret entrances. he also confides that he is putting on his long johns and likes to start the day with oatmeal with flax and honey, an aside to a thinly veiled lamentation on the state of his health. this busy guy needs to put aside some time for the couch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLK Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 The couch, or The Couch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC in DC Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Do you think that one maximizes one's odds of getting a question answered by submitting the question in advance, or submitting the question during the chat?It's been my limited experience that ones submitted during the chat are more likely to be answered. I suspect he sits down at the computer a minute before the chat begins, sees about 100 pre-submitted questions, says, "Oh criminy, what a bunch of losers, who have actually spent time earlier in the week drafting questions for me," and then never even reads them. I recall that Tom has said that he comes in early on Weds to read through the pre-submitted questions and type out responses. (This statement has usually been made when a reader attacks him for not reviewing enough restaurants and being a lazy ass.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastedc Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Plus, "I've always wanted to own my own restaurant."This quote from Tom's Weekly Dish concering Patrick Bazin opening his own restaurant in Vienna. Point: it's not a sentence/grammatically correct...OK, no Biggie, but still, just more proof how email is affecting the written language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giant shrimp Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This quote from Tom's Weekly Dish concering Patrick Bazin opening his own restaurant in Vienna. Point: it's not a sentence/grammatically correct...OK, no Biggie, but still, just more proof how email is affecting the written language. looks like a sentence to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimRice Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 For some reason I can't stand "tuck into" and "napped". Also, the one word that NO food writer should ever use under any circumstance: "scrumptious" or its sibling "scrum-diddly-umptious" . I hate that word! Is Ned Flanders writing restaurant reviews somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lackadaisi Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This quote from Tom's Weekly Dish concering Patrick Bazin opening his own restaurant in Vienna. Point: it's not a sentence/grammatically correct...OK, no Biggie, but still, just more proof how email is affecting the written language. In what way is it grammatically incorrect? The style isn't great, but there is nothing technically wrong with the sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsadler Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 (edited) For some reason I can't stand "tuck into" and "napped". Also, the one word that NO food writer should ever use under any circumstance: "scrumptious" or its sibling "scrum-diddly-umptious" . I hate that word! How about "nestled"... I can't stand that one either. (And does Tom S. use "ignited" way too much when describing anything spicy, or is that just me?). Edited October 27, 2005 by cjsadler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyy Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 "Tuck into" "Napped" "Nestled" Ugh. Another three like fingernails on the chalkboard! Well, I feel a bit better that at least I'm not alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meaghan Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This quote from Tom's Weekly Dish concering Patrick Bazin opening his own restaurant in Vienna. Point: it's not a sentence/grammatically correct...OK, no Biggie, but still, just more proof how email is affecting the written language. "I've always wanted to own my own restaurant..." is awkward, but there's nothing wrong with the quote. In the first instance own is the verb and in the second it's an adj. Nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 "I've always wanted to own my own restaurant..." is awkward, but there's nothing wrong with the quote. In the first instance own is the verb and in the second it's an adj. Nothing wrong. Except that it is redundant. "I've always wanted to own a restaurant" is a better construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giant shrimp Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Except that it is redundant. "I've always wanted to own a restaurant" is a better construction. except we are talking about two different kinds of writing here; in tom's case it is a chat in which he is typing as fast as he can and doesn't have the luxury of dotting his i's. online mishaps don't bother me; that's the trade off for being able to read and right things that would never make it into print otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Except that it is redundant. "I've always wanted to own a restaurant" is a better construction. Disagree. But only because this is a somewhat special case. Here, "my own restaurant" is a single, unified concept, as in "my very own restaurant", and deletion of the "own" before restaurant detracts from the thought. It could have been "and have my own restaurant" but that seems weak. The way it was originally written strikes me as the best way to communicate the sentiment. Who among us, I ask you, has never thought of the pros and cons of owning his/her own restaurant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastedc Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Call me crazy, but the sentence is only 1 word and a quote - "Point" is the only word in the sentence! So can you go: I "this is a quote". ? In other words, a quote is not part of the grammar of a sentence, that was my "Point"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastedc Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Whoops, I meant "Plus" not "Point"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 [Can we nix the grammar lesson now? Thank you! ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparrott Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I don't know. Can we? [couldn't resist...] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lackadaisi Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Whoops, I meant "Plus" not "Point"... I get it now. I was thinking that the quote was only "I've always wanted to own my own restaurant." But, it wasn't. The quote to which you were referring was (in its entirety): "'I want to become part of the fabric of a community,' he says, explaining his decision to move from downtown to Vienna, where he lives. Plus, 'I've always wanted to own my own restaurant.'" You are correct, that is grammatically confusing to say the least. The "plus" is out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 [ ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Slater Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 [Can we nix the grammar lesson now? Thank you! ] Net Nanny!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 [ ] Oh come on. This was marginally more interesting than more silly puns. Now, I have always wanted to own someone else's restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Oh come on. This was marginally more interesting than more silly puns. There are no silly puns. Only silly punts. (Weeeeeeeaaaaaccckkkk.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRocks Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 The November 2nd chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hersch Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Vace is on Connecticut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giant shrimp Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 i guess it is far too early to tell whether tom should be sending diners in the vicinity of the convention center to vegetate. i thought it was a joke until noticing that it was mentioned by todd kliman in his chat yesterday. you can't tell much from the menu online, but they don't have a liquor license, they say, because of opposition from the shiloh baptist church. what are you supposed to drink with the cheese plate? milk? so this is the thanks the proprietors get for cleaning up the human excrement on their block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Vace is on Connecticut. The one in Bethesda is right off Wisconsin. I was surprised by the lack of gripes in today's chat. Only remotely "controversial" subject was Cakelove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hersch Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 The one in Bethesda is right off Wisconsin.I Oops...I didn't know there was one in Bethesda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganCircle Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 ANC 2F and their Community Development Committee are rightfully upset about the tactics employed by Shiloh. The Vegetate proprietors did everything they should have and are being held up for the most ridiculous of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsadler Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Oops...I didn't know there was one in Bethesda. I lived about 5 blocks from it for 3 years before I found out it was there. It's really hidden on a side street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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